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From: "Eliot Courtney" <ecourtney@nvidia.com>
To: "John Hubbard" <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	"Eliot Courtney" <ecourtney@nvidia.com>,
	"Alexandre Courbot" <acourbot@nvidia.com>,
	<sashiko-bot@kernel.org>
Cc: <sashiko-reviews@lists.linux.dev>,
	"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
	"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"David Airlie" <airlied@gmail.com>,
	"Simona Vetter" <simona@ffwll.ch>,
	"Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>, "Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Alistair Popple" <apopple@nvidia.com>,
	"Timur Tabi" <ttabi@nvidia.com>, "Zhi Wang" <zhiw@nvidia.com>,
	<nova-gpu@lists.linux.dev>, <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	<ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"dri-devel" <dri-devel-bounces@lists.freedesktop.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 11/14] gpu: nova-core: gsp: cmdq: use consume_element to implement drain
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2026 15:45:20 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DMB5XFL1A5I4.2JGQ6SMGQ32UH@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c19b1cea-0a35-4889-a36f-891f0d9fcb13@nvidia.com>

On Wed Oct 21, 2026 at 1:05 PM JST, John Hubbard wrote:
> On 10/20/26 8:23 PM, Eliot Courtney wrote:
>> On Wed Oct 21, 2026 at 12:12 PM JST, John Hubbard wrote:
>>> On 10/20/26 7:57 PM, Eliot Courtney wrote:
>>>> On Tue Oct 20, 2026 at 11:27 PM JST, Alexandre Courbot wrote:
>>>>> On Tue Oct 20, 2026 at 7:18 PM JST, sashiko-bot wrote:
>>>> [...]
>>>> I'm also fine with special casing `wait_for_msg`, but personally
>>>> (maybe) sleeping when you set timeout to Delta::ZERO sounds busted to
>>>> me.
>>>
>>> It's not necessarily wrong, depending on how you think about it:
>>> "sleep, but timeout at zero" is something I've seen used (I forget
>>> where) as to mean "context switch away", kind of like a cpu_relax().
>> 
>> Here, it only sometimes sleeps ("(maybe)"), depending on the resolution
>> of the timer and how long stuff takes. So it's really pretty
>> inconsistent IMO.
>
> Yes it is going to act in ways that look non-deterministic. And that's
> OK, because:
>
> a) It's not broken.
>
> b) It's not unreasonable nor even terribly surprising behavior: one
> can reason about it.
>
> c) The requested behavior itself is impossible: "do X for an infinitely
> short amount of time".
>
> Why are we adding code to optimize behavior for callers that should
> not even exist?
>
> thanks,

Yerp you convinced me. I also realised that we can't just change
`start.elapsed() > timeout_delta` to `start.elapsed() >= timeout_delta`
because it could end up not waiting enough time (due to integer stuff).


  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-22  6:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-20 10:08 [PATCH v5 00/14] gpu: nova-core: gsp: prepare the command queue for r000 dual-message types Alexandre Courbot
2026-10-20 10:08 ` [PATCH v5 01/14] gpu: nova-core: gsp: cmdq: remove stale comment Alexandre Courbot
2026-10-20 11:43   ` Eliot Courtney
2026-10-20 10:08 ` [PATCH v5 02/14] gpu: nova-core: gsp: cmdq: simplify framing error description Alexandre Courbot
2026-10-20 11:43   ` Eliot Courtney
2026-10-20 10:08 ` [PATCH v5 03/14] gpu: nova-core: gsp: cmdq: validate checksum earlier on receive Alexandre Courbot
2026-10-20 10:08 ` [PATCH v5 04/14] gpu: nova-core: gsp: introduce and use proper RpcMessageHeader type Alexandre Courbot
2026-10-20 10:08 ` [PATCH v5 05/14] gpu: nova-core: gsp: cmdq: group the RPC-specific part of send_single_command Alexandre Courbot
2026-10-20 10:08 ` [PATCH v5 06/14] gpu: nova-core: gsp: cmdq: split the transport part of the send path Alexandre Courbot
2026-10-20 10:08 ` [PATCH v5 07/14] gpu: nova-core: gsp: cmdq: split RPC parsing part of the receive path Alexandre Courbot
2026-10-20 10:08 ` [PATCH v5 08/14] gpu: nova-core: gsp: cmdq: move RPC message logging to RpcMessage Alexandre Courbot
2026-10-20 10:08 ` [PATCH v5 09/14] gpu: nova-core: gsp: cmdq: split the transport part of the receive path Alexandre Courbot
2026-10-21  1:56   ` Eliot Courtney
2026-10-20 10:08 ` [PATCH v5 10/14] gpu: nova-core: gsp: cmdq: extract await_msg_with from await_msg Alexandre Courbot
2026-10-21  2:00   ` Eliot Courtney
2026-10-20 10:08 ` [PATCH v5 11/14] gpu: nova-core: gsp: cmdq: use consume_element to implement drain Alexandre Courbot
2026-10-20 10:18   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-20 14:27     ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-10-21  2:57       ` Eliot Courtney
2026-10-21  3:12         ` John Hubbard
2026-10-21  3:23           ` Eliot Courtney
2026-10-21  4:05             ` John Hubbard
2026-10-22  6:45               ` Eliot Courtney [this message]
2026-10-21 12:20             ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-10-21  2:58   ` Eliot Courtney
2026-10-20 10:08 ` [PATCH v5 12/14] gpu: nova-core: gsp: cmdq: move the RPC code into a sub-module Alexandre Courbot
2026-10-20 10:15   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-20 10:08 ` [PATCH v5 13/14] gpu: nova-core: gsp: move the RPC commands " Alexandre Courbot
2026-10-20 10:08 ` [PATCH v5 14/14] gpu: nova-core: gsp: add `rpc` to RPC message send/receive methods Alexandre Courbot

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