* populate_sdk: We need to ensure that the SDK sysroot reflects PACKAGE_ARCH
@ 2011-08-09 17:57 Richard Purdie
2011-08-10 4:00 ` Lu, Lianhao
2011-08-10 12:53 ` Kumar Gala
0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Richard Purdie @ 2011-08-09 17:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: openembedded-core
If we don't do this, the SDK target sysroot is named generically even
when it contains package architecture specific optimisations.
Signed-off-by: Richard Purdie <richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org>
---
diff --git a/meta/classes/populate_sdk.bbclass b/meta/classes/populate_sdk.bbclass
index 0f3591b..8c19e83 100644
--- a/meta/classes/populate_sdk.bbclass
+++ b/meta/classes/populate_sdk.bbclass
@@ -5,7 +5,7 @@ SDK_DIR = "${WORKDIR}/sdk"
SDK_OUTPUT = "${SDK_DIR}/image"
SDK_DEPLOY = "${TMPDIR}/deploy/sdk"
-SDKTARGETSYSROOT = "${SDKPATH}/sysroots/${TARGET_SYS}"
+SDKTARGETSYSROOT = "${SDKPATH}/sysroots/${MULTIMACH_TARGET_SYS}"
TOOLCHAIN_HOST_TASK ?= "task-sdk-host-nativesdk task-cross-canadian-${TRANSLATED_TARGET_ARCH}"
TOOLCHAIN_TARGET_TASK ?= "task-core-standalone-sdk-target task-core-standalone-sdk-target-dbg"
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* Re: populate_sdk: We need to ensure that the SDK sysroot reflects PACKAGE_ARCH
2011-08-09 17:57 populate_sdk: We need to ensure that the SDK sysroot reflects PACKAGE_ARCH Richard Purdie
@ 2011-08-10 4:00 ` Lu, Lianhao
2011-08-10 12:59 ` Kumar Gala
2011-08-10 12:53 ` Kumar Gala
1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Lu, Lianhao @ 2011-08-10 4:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Patches and discussions about the oe-core layer
Richard Purdie wrote on 2011-08-10:
> If we don't do this, the SDK target sysroot is named generically even
> when it contains package architecture specific optimisations.
>
> Signed-off-by: Richard Purdie <richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org> ---
> diff --git a/meta/classes/populate_sdk.bbclass
> b/meta/classes/populate_sdk.bbclass index 0f3591b..8c19e83 100644 ---
> a/meta/classes/populate_sdk.bbclass +++
> b/meta/classes/populate_sdk.bbclass @@ -5,7 +5,7 @@ SDK_DIR =
> "${WORKDIR}/sdk"
> SDK_OUTPUT = "${SDK_DIR}/image"
> SDK_DEPLOY = "${TMPDIR}/deploy/sdk"
> -SDKTARGETSYSROOT = "${SDKPATH}/sysroots/${TARGET_SYS}"
> +SDKTARGETSYSROOT = "${SDKPATH}/sysroots/${MULTIMACH_TARGET_SYS}"
In gcc-configure-sdk.inc, it is set "--with-sysroot=${SDKPATH}/sysroots/${TARGET_SYS}".
Is there any inconsistency?
Best Regards,
Lianhao
> TOOLCHAIN_HOST_TASK ?= "task-sdk-host-nativesdk
> task-cross-canadian-${TRANSLATED_TARGET_ARCH}" TOOLCHAIN_TARGET_TASK ?=
> "task-core-standalone-sdk-target
> task-core-standalone-sdk-target-dbg"
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* Re: populate_sdk: We need to ensure that the SDK sysroot reflects PACKAGE_ARCH
2011-08-09 17:57 populate_sdk: We need to ensure that the SDK sysroot reflects PACKAGE_ARCH Richard Purdie
2011-08-10 4:00 ` Lu, Lianhao
@ 2011-08-10 12:53 ` Kumar Gala
1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Kumar Gala @ 2011-08-10 12:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Patches and discussions about the oe-core layer
On Aug 9, 2011, at 12:57 PM, Richard Purdie wrote:
> If we don't do this, the SDK target sysroot is named generically even
> when it contains package architecture specific optimisations.
>
> Signed-off-by: Richard Purdie <richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org>
> ---
> diff --git a/meta/classes/populate_sdk.bbclass b/meta/classes/populate_sdk.bbclass
> index 0f3591b..8c19e83 100644
> --- a/meta/classes/populate_sdk.bbclass
> +++ b/meta/classes/populate_sdk.bbclass
> @@ -5,7 +5,7 @@ SDK_DIR = "${WORKDIR}/sdk"
> SDK_OUTPUT = "${SDK_DIR}/image"
> SDK_DEPLOY = "${TMPDIR}/deploy/sdk"
>
> -SDKTARGETSYSROOT = "${SDKPATH}/sysroots/${TARGET_SYS}"
> +SDKTARGETSYSROOT = "${SDKPATH}/sysroots/${MULTIMACH_TARGET_SYS}"
>
> TOOLCHAIN_HOST_TASK ?= "task-sdk-host-nativesdk task-cross-canadian-${TRANSLATED_TARGET_ARCH}"
> TOOLCHAIN_TARGET_TASK ?= "task-core-standalone-sdk-target task-core-standalone-sdk-target-dbg"
>
Ack.
- k
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* Re: populate_sdk: We need to ensure that the SDK sysroot reflects PACKAGE_ARCH
2011-08-10 4:00 ` Lu, Lianhao
@ 2011-08-10 12:59 ` Kumar Gala
2011-08-10 13:07 ` Richard Purdie
0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Kumar Gala @ 2011-08-10 12:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Patches and discussions about the oe-core layer
On Aug 9, 2011, at 11:00 PM, Lu, Lianhao wrote:
> Richard Purdie wrote on 2011-08-10:
>> If we don't do this, the SDK target sysroot is named generically even
>> when it contains package architecture specific optimisations.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Richard Purdie <richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org> ---
>> diff --git a/meta/classes/populate_sdk.bbclass
>> b/meta/classes/populate_sdk.bbclass index 0f3591b..8c19e83 100644 ---
>> a/meta/classes/populate_sdk.bbclass +++
>> b/meta/classes/populate_sdk.bbclass @@ -5,7 +5,7 @@ SDK_DIR =
>> "${WORKDIR}/sdk"
>> SDK_OUTPUT = "${SDK_DIR}/image"
>> SDK_DEPLOY = "${TMPDIR}/deploy/sdk"
>> -SDKTARGETSYSROOT = "${SDKPATH}/sysroots/${TARGET_SYS}"
>> +SDKTARGETSYSROOT = "${SDKPATH}/sysroots/${MULTIMACH_TARGET_SYS}"
>
> In gcc-configure-sdk.inc, it is set "--with-sysroot=${SDKPATH}/sysroots/${TARGET_SYS}".
> Is there any inconsistency?
Binutils might also need updating.
- k
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* Re: populate_sdk: We need to ensure that the SDK sysroot reflects PACKAGE_ARCH
2011-08-10 12:59 ` Kumar Gala
@ 2011-08-10 13:07 ` Richard Purdie
2011-08-10 13:23 ` Richard Purdie
0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Richard Purdie @ 2011-08-10 13:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Patches and discussions about the oe-core layer
On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 07:59 -0500, Kumar Gala wrote:
> On Aug 9, 2011, at 11:00 PM, Lu, Lianhao wrote:
>
> > Richard Purdie wrote on 2011-08-10:
> >> If we don't do this, the SDK target sysroot is named generically even
> >> when it contains package architecture specific optimisations.
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Richard Purdie <richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org> ---
> >> diff --git a/meta/classes/populate_sdk.bbclass
> >> b/meta/classes/populate_sdk.bbclass index 0f3591b..8c19e83 100644 ---
> >> a/meta/classes/populate_sdk.bbclass +++
> >> b/meta/classes/populate_sdk.bbclass @@ -5,7 +5,7 @@ SDK_DIR =
> >> "${WORKDIR}/sdk"
> >> SDK_OUTPUT = "${SDK_DIR}/image"
> >> SDK_DEPLOY = "${TMPDIR}/deploy/sdk"
> >> -SDKTARGETSYSROOT = "${SDKPATH}/sysroots/${TARGET_SYS}"
> >> +SDKTARGETSYSROOT = "${SDKPATH}/sysroots/${MULTIMACH_TARGET_SYS}"
> >
> > In gcc-configure-sdk.inc, it is set "--with-sysroot=${SDKPATH}/sysroots/${TARGET_SYS}".
> > Is there any inconsistency?
>
> Binutils might also need updating.
This is an interesting question. We certainly compile in a default path
for the sysroot but we in general always override it from the
environment anyway.
As long as the package architectures for the sdk components are correct
we should be able to update the defaults. I've not yet checked that
though.
Cheers,
Richard
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* Re: populate_sdk: We need to ensure that the SDK sysroot reflects PACKAGE_ARCH
2011-08-10 13:07 ` Richard Purdie
@ 2011-08-10 13:23 ` Richard Purdie
2011-08-10 13:34 ` Gary Thomas
0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Richard Purdie @ 2011-08-10 13:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Patches and discussions about the oe-core layer
On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 14:07 +0100, Richard Purdie wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 07:59 -0500, Kumar Gala wrote:
> > On Aug 9, 2011, at 11:00 PM, Lu, Lianhao wrote:
> >
> > > Richard Purdie wrote on 2011-08-10:
> > >> If we don't do this, the SDK target sysroot is named generically even
> > >> when it contains package architecture specific optimisations.
> > >>
> > >> Signed-off-by: Richard Purdie <richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org> ---
> > >> diff --git a/meta/classes/populate_sdk.bbclass
> > >> b/meta/classes/populate_sdk.bbclass index 0f3591b..8c19e83 100644 ---
> > >> a/meta/classes/populate_sdk.bbclass +++
> > >> b/meta/classes/populate_sdk.bbclass @@ -5,7 +5,7 @@ SDK_DIR =
> > >> "${WORKDIR}/sdk"
> > >> SDK_OUTPUT = "${SDK_DIR}/image"
> > >> SDK_DEPLOY = "${TMPDIR}/deploy/sdk"
> > >> -SDKTARGETSYSROOT = "${SDKPATH}/sysroots/${TARGET_SYS}"
> > >> +SDKTARGETSYSROOT = "${SDKPATH}/sysroots/${MULTIMACH_TARGET_SYS}"
> > >
> > > In gcc-configure-sdk.inc, it is set "--with-sysroot=${SDKPATH}/sysroots/${TARGET_SYS}".
> > > Is there any inconsistency?
> >
> > Binutils might also need updating.
>
> This is an interesting question. We certainly compile in a default path
> for the sysroot but we in general always override it from the
> environment anyway.
>
> As long as the package architectures for the sdk components are correct
> we should be able to update the defaults. I've not yet checked that
> though.
This is something which gets built into
gcc-cross-canadian-${TARGET_ARCH} (i.e i586/armpowerpc). Since we use
the target libs (inc libgcc) and everything in that package is multiple
platform enabled, I think the current behaviour is correct. It might
point an an invalid default sysroot but its up to the package
architecture specific environment files to correct that. This means the
one toolchain can be shared over multiple package architectures.
I'm open to other views of that but I think what we have there is
correct and should work with the above change.
Cheers,
Richard
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* Re: populate_sdk: We need to ensure that the SDK sysroot reflects PACKAGE_ARCH
2011-08-10 13:23 ` Richard Purdie
@ 2011-08-10 13:34 ` Gary Thomas
2011-08-10 13:40 ` Richard Purdie
0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Gary Thomas @ 2011-08-10 13:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Patches and discussions about the oe-core layer
On 2011-08-10 07:23, Richard Purdie wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 14:07 +0100, Richard Purdie wrote:
>> On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 07:59 -0500, Kumar Gala wrote:
>>> On Aug 9, 2011, at 11:00 PM, Lu, Lianhao wrote:
>>>
>>>> Richard Purdie wrote on 2011-08-10:
>>>>> If we don't do this, the SDK target sysroot is named generically even
>>>>> when it contains package architecture specific optimisations.
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Richard Purdie<richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org> ---
>>>>> diff --git a/meta/classes/populate_sdk.bbclass
>>>>> b/meta/classes/populate_sdk.bbclass index 0f3591b..8c19e83 100644 ---
>>>>> a/meta/classes/populate_sdk.bbclass +++
>>>>> b/meta/classes/populate_sdk.bbclass @@ -5,7 +5,7 @@ SDK_DIR =
>>>>> "${WORKDIR}/sdk"
>>>>> SDK_OUTPUT = "${SDK_DIR}/image"
>>>>> SDK_DEPLOY = "${TMPDIR}/deploy/sdk"
>>>>> -SDKTARGETSYSROOT = "${SDKPATH}/sysroots/${TARGET_SYS}"
>>>>> +SDKTARGETSYSROOT = "${SDKPATH}/sysroots/${MULTIMACH_TARGET_SYS}"
>>>>
>>>> In gcc-configure-sdk.inc, it is set "--with-sysroot=${SDKPATH}/sysroots/${TARGET_SYS}".
>>>> Is there any inconsistency?
>>>
>>> Binutils might also need updating.
>>
>> This is an interesting question. We certainly compile in a default path
>> for the sysroot but we in general always override it from the
>> environment anyway.
>>
>> As long as the package architectures for the sdk components are correct
>> we should be able to update the defaults. I've not yet checked that
>> though.
>
> This is something which gets built into
> gcc-cross-canadian-${TARGET_ARCH} (i.e i586/armpowerpc). Since we use
> the target libs (inc libgcc) and everything in that package is multiple
> platform enabled, I think the current behaviour is correct. It might
> point an an invalid default sysroot but its up to the package
> architecture specific environment files to correct that. This means the
> one toolchain can be shared over multiple package architectures.
>
> I'm open to other views of that but I think what we have there is
> correct and should work with the above change.
On a related thought to these changes - how does this play if
you use multiple SDKs for different, but somewhat related, architectures?
I'd like to create a simple SDK (just toolchain mostly) using 'meta-toolchain'
for both armv5te and armv7a and install them simultaneously on the same
host. My previous attempts at this fell flat as there were a number of
files marked as "arm" (i.e. not armv5te or arvm7a) that were common between
the two SDK packages, but they didn't seem to be identical.
With these changes, will it be possible to support such sets of multiple
toolchains? (No, ADT is not the answer - I just want the toolchains)
Thanks
(sorry if this seems I hijacked your thread - my question is related to
what you are discussing here)
--
------------------------------------------------------------
Gary Thomas | Consulting for the
MLB Associates | Embedded world
------------------------------------------------------------
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* Re: populate_sdk: We need to ensure that the SDK sysroot reflects PACKAGE_ARCH
2011-08-10 13:34 ` Gary Thomas
@ 2011-08-10 13:40 ` Richard Purdie
2011-08-10 13:48 ` Gary Thomas
0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Richard Purdie @ 2011-08-10 13:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Gary Thomas; +Cc: Patches and discussions about the oe-core layer
On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 07:34 -0600, Gary Thomas wrote:
> On a related thought to these changes - how does this play if
> you use multiple SDKs for different, but somewhat related, architectures?
> I'd like to create a simple SDK (just toolchain mostly) using 'meta-toolchain'
> for both armv5te and armv7a and install them simultaneously on the same
> host. My previous attempts at this fell flat as there were a number of
> files marked as "arm" (i.e. not armv5te or arvm7a) that were common between
> the two SDK packages, but they didn't seem to be identical.
This is supposed to work but wouldn't due to the issue and the patch
I've proposed. Whether that is the only issue I don't know.
Can you remember which files we're talking about here?
> With these changes, will it be possible to support such sets of multiple
> toolchains? (No, ADT is not the answer - I just want the toolchains)
ADT uses meta-toolchain-* so its all related.
Cheers,
Richard
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* Re: populate_sdk: We need to ensure that the SDK sysroot reflects PACKAGE_ARCH
2011-08-10 13:40 ` Richard Purdie
@ 2011-08-10 13:48 ` Gary Thomas
2011-08-10 14:23 ` Kumar Gala
2011-08-17 15:44 ` Gary Thomas
0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Gary Thomas @ 2011-08-10 13:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Richard Purdie; +Cc: Patches and discussions about the oe-core layer
On 2011-08-10 07:40, Richard Purdie wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 07:34 -0600, Gary Thomas wrote:
>> On a related thought to these changes - how does this play if
>> you use multiple SDKs for different, but somewhat related, architectures?
>> I'd like to create a simple SDK (just toolchain mostly) using 'meta-toolchain'
>> for both armv5te and armv7a and install them simultaneously on the same
>> host. My previous attempts at this fell flat as there were a number of
>> files marked as "arm" (i.e. not armv5te or arvm7a) that were common between
>> the two SDK packages, but they didn't seem to be identical.
>
> This is supposed to work but wouldn't due to the issue and the patch
> I've proposed. Whether that is the only issue I don't know.
I'll be glad to test this once you've worked it out.
>
> Can you remember which files we're talking about here?
Not right off - there were just a ton of directories with only arm in the
path that seemed to be architecture dependent. I think it's all related to
TARGET_SYS vs MULTIMACH_TARGET_SYS and how/where they are used.
>
>> With these changes, will it be possible to support such sets of multiple
>> toolchains? (No, ADT is not the answer - I just want the toolchains)
>
> ADT uses meta-toolchain-* so its all related.
Fair enough, I just don't want to have to use ADT just to install a toolchain.
Thanks
--
------------------------------------------------------------
Gary Thomas | Consulting for the
MLB Associates | Embedded world
------------------------------------------------------------
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* Re: populate_sdk: We need to ensure that the SDK sysroot reflects PACKAGE_ARCH
2011-08-10 13:48 ` Gary Thomas
@ 2011-08-10 14:23 ` Kumar Gala
2011-08-17 15:44 ` Gary Thomas
1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Kumar Gala @ 2011-08-10 14:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Patches and discussions about the oe-core layer
On Aug 10, 2011, at 8:48 AM, Gary Thomas wrote:
> On 2011-08-10 07:40, Richard Purdie wrote:
>> On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 07:34 -0600, Gary Thomas wrote:
>>> On a related thought to these changes - how does this play if
>>> you use multiple SDKs for different, but somewhat related, architectures?
>>> I'd like to create a simple SDK (just toolchain mostly) using 'meta-toolchain'
>>> for both armv5te and armv7a and install them simultaneously on the same
>>> host. My previous attempts at this fell flat as there were a number of
>>> files marked as "arm" (i.e. not armv5te or arvm7a) that were common between
>>> the two SDK packages, but they didn't seem to be identical.
>>
>> This is supposed to work but wouldn't due to the issue and the patch
>> I've proposed. Whether that is the only issue I don't know.
>
> I'll be glad to test this once you've worked it out.
>
>>
>> Can you remember which files we're talking about here?
>
> Not right off - there were just a ton of directories with only arm in the
> path that seemed to be architecture dependent. I think it's all related to
> TARGET_SYS vs MULTIMACH_TARGET_SYS and how/where they are used.
>
>>
>>> With these changes, will it be possible to support such sets of multiple
>>> toolchains? (No, ADT is not the answer - I just want the toolchains)
>>
>> ADT uses meta-toolchain-* so its all related.
>
> Fair enough, I just don't want to have to use ADT just to install a toolchain.
And this is also something we're wanting to work to allow different PPC toolchain variants to live together
- k
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* Re: populate_sdk: We need to ensure that the SDK sysroot reflects PACKAGE_ARCH
2011-08-10 13:48 ` Gary Thomas
2011-08-10 14:23 ` Kumar Gala
@ 2011-08-17 15:44 ` Gary Thomas
2011-09-05 19:45 ` Richard Purdie
1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Gary Thomas @ 2011-08-17 15:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Richard Purdie; +Cc: Patches and discussions about the oe-core layer
On 2011-08-10 07:48, Gary Thomas wrote:
> On 2011-08-10 07:40, Richard Purdie wrote:
>> On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 07:34 -0600, Gary Thomas wrote:
>>> On a related thought to these changes - how does this play if
>>> you use multiple SDKs for different, but somewhat related, architectures?
>>> I'd like to create a simple SDK (just toolchain mostly) using 'meta-toolchain'
>>> for both armv5te and armv7a and install them simultaneously on the same
>>> host. My previous attempts at this fell flat as there were a number of
>>> files marked as "arm" (i.e. not armv5te or arvm7a) that were common between
>>> the two SDK packages, but they didn't seem to be identical.
>>
>> This is supposed to work but wouldn't due to the issue and the patch
>> I've proposed. Whether that is the only issue I don't know.
>
> I'll be glad to test this once you've worked it out.
>
Any progress on this yet? The discussion seems to have died down...
--
------------------------------------------------------------
Gary Thomas | Consulting for the
MLB Associates | Embedded world
------------------------------------------------------------
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* Re: populate_sdk: We need to ensure that the SDK sysroot reflects PACKAGE_ARCH
2011-08-17 15:44 ` Gary Thomas
@ 2011-09-05 19:45 ` Richard Purdie
0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Richard Purdie @ 2011-09-05 19:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Gary Thomas; +Cc: Patches and discussions about the oe-core layer
On Wed, 2011-08-17 at 09:44 -0600, Gary Thomas wrote:
> On 2011-08-10 07:48, Gary Thomas wrote:
> > On 2011-08-10 07:40, Richard Purdie wrote:
> >> On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 07:34 -0600, Gary Thomas wrote:
> >>> On a related thought to these changes - how does this play if
> >>> you use multiple SDKs for different, but somewhat related, architectures?
> >>> I'd like to create a simple SDK (just toolchain mostly) using 'meta-toolchain'
> >>> for both armv5te and armv7a and install them simultaneously on the same
> >>> host. My previous attempts at this fell flat as there were a number of
> >>> files marked as "arm" (i.e. not armv5te or arvm7a) that were common between
> >>> the two SDK packages, but they didn't seem to be identical.
> >>
> >> This is supposed to work but wouldn't due to the issue and the patch
> >> I've proposed. Whether that is the only issue I don't know.
> >
> > I'll be glad to test this once you've worked it out.
>
> Any progress on this yet? The discussion seems to have died down...
I merged the patch in question so I'm open to feedback on whether this
works better now...
Cheers,
Richard
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