From: Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <lkcl@lkcl.net>
To: Michael Concannon <mike@concannon.net>
Cc: Chase Venters <chase.venters@clientec.com>,
Marc Perkel <marc@perkel.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: what's next for the linux kernel?
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 20:28:57 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051006192857.GV10538@lkcl.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43453E7F.5030801@concannon.net>
On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 11:10:55AM -0400, Michael Concannon wrote:
> All good points, but perhaps the most compelling to me is that virtually
> every successful windows virus out there does its real damage by
> modifying the registry to replace key actions, associate bad actions
> with good ones and just generally screw the system up...
the damage is done because "admin" rights are forced out of the control
of the users and sysadmins and into the hands of the dumb-ass app
writers, for both the setup stage and then the actual day-to-day
usage of the app!
the registry on NT has ACLs - which are completely irrelevant as far as
users running as admin are concerned (because the dumb-ass app writers
force them to).
the nt registry - imagine it to be .... _like_ a filesystem, or _like_
an LDAP server.
except with proper ACLs and access controls [which everyone bypasses
because duh it's windows duh, not because it's impossible to do a decent
job with the API and its implementation].
l.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-10-06 19:29 UTC|newest]
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2005-10-02 20:47 what's next for the linux kernel? Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-02 21:05 ` Rik van Riel
2005-10-02 23:05 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-02 23:26 ` Rik van Riel
2005-10-03 1:26 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-03 1:53 ` Rik van Riel
2005-10-02 23:37 ` Vadim Lobanov
2005-10-03 0:54 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-03 1:20 ` Vadim Lobanov
2005-10-03 1:47 ` Al Viro
2005-10-03 1:50 ` Vadim Lobanov
2005-10-03 1:53 ` Al Viro
2005-10-03 2:00 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-03 9:34 ` Erik Mouw
2005-10-03 1:53 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-03 2:31 ` Vadim Lobanov
2005-10-02 23:14 ` D. Hazelton
2005-10-03 10:36 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2005-10-03 21:34 ` Nix
2005-10-03 18:19 ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-10-04 12:53 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-04 13:13 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2005-10-04 13:47 ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-10-04 17:12 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-10-04 16:20 ` Gene Heskett
2005-10-03 2:12 ` Horst von Brand
2005-10-03 16:32 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-10-03 19:02 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-03 2:55 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-10-03 3:25 ` Rik van Riel
2005-10-03 19:13 ` Alan Cox
2005-10-03 21:22 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-03 5:03 ` Sonny Rao
2005-10-03 21:12 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-03 23:46 ` Sonny Rao
2005-10-03 19:18 ` Alan Cox
2005-10-03 21:07 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-03 22:05 ` Alan Cox
2005-10-04 14:01 ` Andi Kleen
2005-10-04 3:51 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-10-03 0:04 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-10-03 0:14 ` Randy.Dunlap
2005-10-03 0:44 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-03 7:50 ` Meelis Roos
2005-10-03 18:08 ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-10-03 18:28 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2005-10-03 20:00 ` Jon Masters
2005-10-03 18:56 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-03 1:10 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-03 1:18 ` Rik van Riel
2005-10-03 1:27 ` Chase Venters
2005-10-04 12:59 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-04 15:01 ` Tushar Adeshara
2005-10-04 15:04 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-10-04 15:58 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-04 16:17 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-04 17:15 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-10-04 17:23 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-04 17:40 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-10-04 17:30 ` Rik van Riel
2005-10-06 0:07 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-06 9:56 ` David Weinehall
2005-10-06 17:23 ` Rik van Riel
2005-10-06 19:22 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-07 0:38 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-07 1:10 ` Al Viro
2005-10-07 0:40 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-03 17:56 ` Joe Bob Spamtest
[not found] ` <20051003185804.GB8548@lkcl.net>
[not found] ` <43418834.6070400@spamtest.viacore.net>
2005-10-03 20:30 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-02 22:49 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-10-02 23:24 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-03 4:04 ` Willy Tarreau
2005-10-03 0:38 ` Kurt Wall
2005-10-03 0:36 ` Kurt Wall
2005-10-03 0:43 ` David Leimbach
2005-10-03 5:45 ` Nick Piggin
2005-10-03 14:20 ` Jon Masters
2005-10-03 16:00 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-10-03 19:12 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-03 19:31 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-10-03 20:22 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-03 21:55 ` Jon Masters
2005-10-04 1:33 ` Jason Stubbs
2005-10-04 12:22 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-04 19:47 ` Marc Perkel
2005-10-04 21:15 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-04 23:40 ` Chase Venters
2005-10-05 5:35 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-10-05 10:07 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-05 6:54 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-10-05 10:03 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-05 10:26 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-05 11:04 ` Diego Calleja
2005-10-06 19:15 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-06 5:04 ` Chase Venters
2005-10-06 4:27 ` [ANNOUNCE] Wolf Mountain File System [what's next for the linux kernel] jmerkey
2005-10-06 4:32 ` jmerkey
2005-10-06 10:44 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-06 14:24 ` jmerkey
2005-10-06 8:08 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-10-06 14:25 ` jmerkey
2005-10-11 18:18 ` [ANNOUNCE] Wolf Mountain File System Jeff V. Merkey
2005-10-06 15:10 ` what's next for the linux kernel? Michael Concannon
2005-10-06 19:28 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton [this message]
2005-10-06 20:13 ` Michael Concannon
2005-10-06 20:22 ` Michael Concannon
2005-10-06 21:05 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-06 21:20 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-06 21:53 ` Michael Concannon
2005-10-06 22:24 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-06 22:41 ` Michael Concannon
2005-10-06 22:41 ` Michael Concannon
2005-10-07 1:05 ` Howard Chu
2005-10-08 22:27 ` Helge Hafting
2005-10-08 22:42 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-05 0:59 ` Horst von Brand
2005-10-05 1:22 ` D. Hazelton
2005-10-05 5:49 ` Marc Perkel
2005-10-05 6:03 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-10-05 9:24 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-10-05 9:56 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-05 10:30 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-10-05 11:13 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-05 12:17 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-10-05 12:36 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-05 18:47 ` Horst von Brand
2005-10-05 23:03 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-05 21:55 ` jmerkey
2005-10-05 23:36 ` Neil Brown
2005-10-05 22:21 ` jmerkey
2005-10-05 23:42 ` David Leimbach
2005-10-06 3:06 ` Horst von Brand
2005-10-06 10:54 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-06 8:03 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-10-06 9:31 ` Helge Hafting
2005-10-06 14:40 ` Horst von Brand
2005-10-06 18:34 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-10-05 11:16 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-05 13:21 ` Marc Perkel
2005-10-05 13:52 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-10-05 23:53 ` Helge Hafting
2005-10-05 16:36 ` Tim Bird
2005-10-05 13:45 ` D. Hazelton
2005-10-05 10:09 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-05 10:23 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-10-05 11:14 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-05 14:17 ` Nix
2005-10-05 15:54 ` Rik van Riel
2005-10-05 15:58 ` Marc Perkel
2005-10-05 16:15 ` Al Viro
2005-10-05 16:23 ` Marc Perkel
2005-10-05 19:30 ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-10-05 22:48 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-06 10:28 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-10-07 0:59 ` Joe Bob Spamtest
2005-10-07 0:25 ` Joe Bob Spamtest
2005-10-05 20:11 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
[not found] <4TiWy-4HQ-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
2005-10-02 22:43 ` Robert Hancock
2005-10-02 23:32 ` Gene Heskett
2005-10-02 23:41 ` Vadim Lobanov
2005-10-02 23:48 ` Rik van Riel
2005-10-03 3:50 ` Gene Heskett
2005-10-03 9:39 ` Jesper Juhl
[not found] ` <4U0XH-3Gp-39@gated-at.bofh.it>
2005-10-04 22:04 ` Bodo Eggert
2005-10-05 10:36 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-05 23:12 ` Nix
2005-10-05 23:28 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-05 23:49 ` Nix
2005-10-05 14:34 ` Nix
2005-10-05 14:41 ` Marc Perkel
2005-10-05 14:44 ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-10-05 14:48 ` Marc Perkel
2005-10-05 14:56 ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-10-05 15:08 ` Marc Perkel
2005-10-05 15:26 ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-10-05 19:16 ` Nix
2005-10-05 19:30 ` Marc Perkel
2005-10-05 20:26 ` Nix
2005-10-08 16:49 ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-10-05 19:40 ` Al Viro
2005-10-05 19:49 ` Marc Perkel
2005-10-05 19:55 ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-10-05 20:25 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2005-10-05 20:31 ` Nix
2005-10-05 14:59 ` Nigel Rantor
2005-10-05 16:16 ` Bodo Eggert
2005-10-05 19:37 ` Florin Malita
2005-10-05 19:44 ` Marc Perkel
2005-10-05 19:52 ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-10-05 20:05 ` Marc Perkel
2005-10-05 20:23 ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-10-06 2:56 ` Horst von Brand
2005-10-06 3:50 ` Marc Perkel
2005-10-05 20:21 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-10-05 20:58 ` Dave Neuer
2005-10-05 21:05 ` Bodo Eggert
2005-10-06 6:43 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-10-05 19:54 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-10-07 0:11 ` Joe Bob Spamtest
2005-10-05 14:52 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2005-10-05 14:57 ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-10-05 15:26 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2005-10-05 15:24 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-05 15:30 ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-10-05 15:42 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-05 15:55 ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-10-06 15:41 ` Ragnar Hojland Espinosa
2005-10-05 14:55 ` David Leimbach
2005-10-05 16:25 ` Bodo Eggert
2005-10-05 16:41 ` David Leimbach
2005-10-05 19:21 ` Nix
2005-10-05 23:23 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-06 9:53 ` grundig
2005-10-06 10:45 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2005-10-06 15:18 ` Greg Norris
2005-10-05 20:27 ` Marc Perkel
2005-10-05 20:41 ` Julian Blake Kongslie
2005-10-05 20:51 ` Bas Westerbaan
2005-10-05 20:57 ` Julian Blake Kongslie
[not found] ` <4Uis4-4pZ-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
2005-10-05 17:43 ` Bodo Eggert
2005-10-05 19:27 ` Nix
2005-10-05 20:04 ` Bodo Eggert
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-10-04 4:11 Martin Fouts
[not found] <mail.linux.kernel/20051003203037.GG8548@lkcl.net>
[not found] ` <05Oct4.173802edt.33143@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca>
2005-10-05 12:07 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-05 12:31 ` Jens Axboe
2005-10-05 13:35 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-05 13:40 ` Jens Axboe
2005-10-05 15:29 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-05 15:51 ` Jens Axboe
2005-10-05 16:38 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-10-05 23:24 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-05 17:01 ` Dave Neuer
[not found] ` <161717d50510050957t2eaa3af0u8c6b3b4d327497a9@mail.gmail.com>
2005-10-05 23:05 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
[not found] <DE88BDF02F4319469812588C7950A97E9312A6@ussunex1.palmsource.com>
2005-10-06 0:03 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-06 0:14 ` David S. Miller
2005-10-06 1:11 ` Nigel Rantor
2005-10-06 11:10 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-10-06 15:44 ` Al Viro
2005-10-06 0:51 ` Howard Chu
2005-10-06 3:53 Nikolay N. Ivanov
2005-10-06 23:24 Joe Bob Spamtest
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