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From: Rafael Aquini <aquini@redhat.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Richard Davies <richard@arachsys.com>,
	Shaohua Li <shli@kernel.org>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>, QEMU-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	KVM <kvm@vger.kernel.org>, Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 8/9] mm: compaction: Cache if a pageblock was scanned and no pages were isolated
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 14:53:38 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120921175337.GH6665@optiplex.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1348224383-1499-9-git-send-email-mgorman@suse.de>

On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 11:46:22AM +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> When compaction was implemented it was known that scanning could potentially
> be excessive. The ideal was that a counter be maintained for each pageblock
> but maintaining this information would incur a severe penalty due to a
> shared writable cache line. It has reached the point where the scanning
> costs are an serious problem, particularly on long-lived systems where a
> large process starts and allocates a large number of THPs at the same time.
> 
> Instead of using a shared counter, this patch adds another bit to the
> pageblock flags called PG_migrate_skip. If a pageblock is scanned by
> either migrate or free scanner and 0 pages were isolated, the pageblock
> is marked to be skipped in the future. When scanning, this bit is checked
> before any scanning takes place and the block skipped if set.
> 
> The main difficulty with a patch like this is "when to ignore the cached
> information?" If it's ignored too often, the scanning rates will still
> be excessive. If the information is too stale then allocations will fail
> that might have otherwise succeeded. In this patch
> 
> o CMA always ignores the information
> o If the migrate and free scanner meet then the cached information will
>   be discarded if it's at least 5 seconds since the last time the cache
>   was discarded
> o If there are a large number of allocation failures, discard the cache.
> 
> The time-based heuristic is very clumsy but there are few choices for a
> better event. Depending solely on multiple allocation failures still allows
> excessive scanning when THP allocations are failing in quick succession
> due to memory pressure. Waiting until memory pressure is relieved would
> cause compaction to continually fail instead of using reclaim/compaction
> to try allocate the page. The time-based mechanism is clumsy but a better
> option is not obvious.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
> Acked-by: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
> ---

Acked-by: Rafael Aquini <aquini@redhat.com>

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From: Rafael Aquini <aquini@redhat.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Richard Davies <richard@arachsys.com>,
	Shaohua Li <shli@kernel.org>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>, QEMU-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	KVM <kvm@vger.kernel.org>, Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 8/9] mm: compaction: Cache if a pageblock was scanned and no pages were isolated
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 14:53:38 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120921175337.GH6665@optiplex.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1348224383-1499-9-git-send-email-mgorman@suse.de>

On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 11:46:22AM +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> When compaction was implemented it was known that scanning could potentially
> be excessive. The ideal was that a counter be maintained for each pageblock
> but maintaining this information would incur a severe penalty due to a
> shared writable cache line. It has reached the point where the scanning
> costs are an serious problem, particularly on long-lived systems where a
> large process starts and allocates a large number of THPs at the same time.
> 
> Instead of using a shared counter, this patch adds another bit to the
> pageblock flags called PG_migrate_skip. If a pageblock is scanned by
> either migrate or free scanner and 0 pages were isolated, the pageblock
> is marked to be skipped in the future. When scanning, this bit is checked
> before any scanning takes place and the block skipped if set.
> 
> The main difficulty with a patch like this is "when to ignore the cached
> information?" If it's ignored too often, the scanning rates will still
> be excessive. If the information is too stale then allocations will fail
> that might have otherwise succeeded. In this patch
> 
> o CMA always ignores the information
> o If the migrate and free scanner meet then the cached information will
>   be discarded if it's at least 5 seconds since the last time the cache
>   was discarded
> o If there are a large number of allocation failures, discard the cache.
> 
> The time-based heuristic is very clumsy but there are few choices for a
> better event. Depending solely on multiple allocation failures still allows
> excessive scanning when THP allocations are failing in quick succession
> due to memory pressure. Waiting until memory pressure is relieved would
> cause compaction to continually fail instead of using reclaim/compaction
> to try allocate the page. The time-based mechanism is clumsy but a better
> option is not obvious.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
> Acked-by: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
> ---

Acked-by: Rafael Aquini <aquini@redhat.com>


WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Rafael Aquini <aquini@redhat.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Cc: Richard Davies <richard@arachsys.com>, KVM <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	QEMU-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Shaohua Li <shli@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 8/9] mm: compaction: Cache if a pageblock was scanned and no pages were isolated
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 14:53:38 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120921175337.GH6665@optiplex.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1348224383-1499-9-git-send-email-mgorman@suse.de>

On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 11:46:22AM +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> When compaction was implemented it was known that scanning could potentially
> be excessive. The ideal was that a counter be maintained for each pageblock
> but maintaining this information would incur a severe penalty due to a
> shared writable cache line. It has reached the point where the scanning
> costs are an serious problem, particularly on long-lived systems where a
> large process starts and allocates a large number of THPs at the same time.
> 
> Instead of using a shared counter, this patch adds another bit to the
> pageblock flags called PG_migrate_skip. If a pageblock is scanned by
> either migrate or free scanner and 0 pages were isolated, the pageblock
> is marked to be skipped in the future. When scanning, this bit is checked
> before any scanning takes place and the block skipped if set.
> 
> The main difficulty with a patch like this is "when to ignore the cached
> information?" If it's ignored too often, the scanning rates will still
> be excessive. If the information is too stale then allocations will fail
> that might have otherwise succeeded. In this patch
> 
> o CMA always ignores the information
> o If the migrate and free scanner meet then the cached information will
>   be discarded if it's at least 5 seconds since the last time the cache
>   was discarded
> o If there are a large number of allocation failures, discard the cache.
> 
> The time-based heuristic is very clumsy but there are few choices for a
> better event. Depending solely on multiple allocation failures still allows
> excessive scanning when THP allocations are failing in quick succession
> due to memory pressure. Waiting until memory pressure is relieved would
> cause compaction to continually fail instead of using reclaim/compaction
> to try allocate the page. The time-based mechanism is clumsy but a better
> option is not obvious.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
> Acked-by: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
> ---

Acked-by: Rafael Aquini <aquini@redhat.com>

  reply	other threads:[~2012-09-21 17:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 126+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-21 10:46 [PATCH 0/9] Reduce compaction scanning and lock contention Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 10:46 ` [Qemu-devel] " Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 10:46 ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 10:46 ` [PATCH 1/9] Revert "mm: compaction: check lock contention first before taking lock" Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 10:46   ` [Qemu-devel] " Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 10:46   ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 17:46   ` Rafael Aquini
2012-09-21 17:46     ` [Qemu-devel] " Rafael Aquini
2012-09-21 17:46     ` Rafael Aquini
2012-09-21 10:46 ` [PATCH 2/9] Revert "mm-compaction-abort-compaction-loop-if-lock-is-contended-or-run-too-long-fix" Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 10:46   ` [Qemu-devel] " Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 10:46   ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 17:47   ` Rafael Aquini
2012-09-21 17:47     ` [Qemu-devel] " Rafael Aquini
2012-09-21 17:47     ` Rafael Aquini
2012-09-21 10:46 ` [PATCH 3/9] Revert "mm: compaction: abort compaction loop if lock is contended or run too long" Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 10:46   ` [Qemu-devel] " Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 10:46   ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 17:48   ` Rafael Aquini
2012-09-21 17:48     ` [Qemu-devel] " Rafael Aquini
2012-09-21 17:48     ` Rafael Aquini
2012-09-21 10:46 ` [PATCH 4/9] mm: compaction: Abort compaction loop if lock is contended or run too long Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 10:46   ` [Qemu-devel] " Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 10:46   ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 17:50   ` Rafael Aquini
2012-09-21 17:50     ` [Qemu-devel] " Rafael Aquini
2012-09-21 17:50     ` Rafael Aquini
2012-09-21 21:31   ` Andrew Morton
2012-09-21 21:31     ` [Qemu-devel] " Andrew Morton
2012-09-21 21:31     ` Andrew Morton
2012-09-25  7:34   ` Minchan Kim
2012-09-25  7:34     ` [Qemu-devel] " Minchan Kim
2012-09-25  7:34     ` Minchan Kim
2012-09-21 10:46 ` [PATCH 5/9] mm: compaction: Acquire the zone->lru_lock as late as possible Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 10:46   ` [Qemu-devel] " Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 10:46   ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 17:51   ` Rafael Aquini
2012-09-21 17:51     ` [Qemu-devel] " Rafael Aquini
2012-09-21 17:51     ` Rafael Aquini
2012-09-25  7:05   ` Minchan Kim
2012-09-25  7:05     ` [Qemu-devel] " Minchan Kim
2012-09-25  7:05     ` Minchan Kim
2012-09-25  7:51     ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-25  7:51       ` [Qemu-devel] " Mel Gorman
2012-09-25  7:51       ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-25  8:13       ` Minchan Kim
2012-09-25  8:13         ` [Qemu-devel] " Minchan Kim
2012-09-25  8:13         ` Minchan Kim
2012-09-25 21:39         ` Andrew Morton
2012-09-25 21:39           ` [Qemu-devel] " Andrew Morton
2012-09-25 21:39           ` Andrew Morton
2012-09-26  0:23           ` Minchan Kim
2012-09-26  0:23             ` [Qemu-devel] " Minchan Kim
2012-09-26  0:23             ` Minchan Kim
2012-09-26 10:17           ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-26 10:17             ` [Qemu-devel] " Mel Gorman
2012-09-26 10:17             ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 10:46 ` [PATCH 6/9] mm: compaction: Acquire the zone->lock " Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 10:46   ` [Qemu-devel] " Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 10:46   ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 17:52   ` Rafael Aquini
2012-09-21 17:52     ` [Qemu-devel] " Rafael Aquini
2012-09-21 17:52     ` Rafael Aquini
2012-09-21 21:35   ` Andrew Morton
2012-09-21 21:35     ` [Qemu-devel] " Andrew Morton
2012-09-21 21:35     ` Andrew Morton
2012-09-24  8:52     ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-24  8:52       ` [Qemu-devel] " Mel Gorman
2012-09-24  8:52       ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-25  7:36       ` Minchan Kim
2012-09-25  7:36         ` [Qemu-devel] " Minchan Kim
2012-09-25  7:36         ` Minchan Kim
2012-09-25  7:35   ` Minchan Kim
2012-09-25  7:35     ` [Qemu-devel] " Minchan Kim
2012-09-25  7:35     ` Minchan Kim
2012-09-21 10:46 ` [PATCH 7/9] Revert "mm: have order > 0 compaction start off where it left" Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 10:46   ` [Qemu-devel] " Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 10:46   ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 17:52   ` Rafael Aquini
2012-09-21 17:52     ` [Qemu-devel] " Rafael Aquini
2012-09-21 17:52     ` Rafael Aquini
2012-09-25  7:37   ` Minchan Kim
2012-09-25  7:37     ` [Qemu-devel] " Minchan Kim
2012-09-25  7:37     ` Minchan Kim
2012-09-21 10:46 ` [PATCH 8/9] mm: compaction: Cache if a pageblock was scanned and no pages were isolated Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 10:46   ` [Qemu-devel] " Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 10:46   ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 17:53   ` Rafael Aquini [this message]
2012-09-21 17:53     ` [Qemu-devel] " Rafael Aquini
2012-09-21 17:53     ` Rafael Aquini
2012-09-21 21:36   ` Andrew Morton
2012-09-21 21:36     ` [Qemu-devel] " Andrew Morton
2012-09-21 21:36     ` Andrew Morton
2012-09-24  9:39     ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-24  9:39       ` [Qemu-devel] " Mel Gorman
2012-09-24  9:39       ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-24 21:26       ` Andrew Morton
2012-09-24 21:26         ` [Qemu-devel] " Andrew Morton
2012-09-24 21:26         ` Andrew Morton
2012-09-25  9:12         ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-25  9:12           ` [Qemu-devel] " Mel Gorman
2012-09-25  9:12           ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-25 20:03           ` Andrew Morton
2012-09-25 20:03             ` [Qemu-devel] " Andrew Morton
2012-09-25 20:03             ` Andrew Morton
2012-09-27 12:06             ` [PATCH] mm: compaction: cache if a pageblock was scanned and no pages were isolated -fix2 Mel Gorman
2012-09-27 12:06               ` [Qemu-devel] " Mel Gorman
2012-09-27 12:06               ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-27 13:12             ` [PATCH 8/9] mm: compaction: Cache if a pageblock was scanned and no pages were isolated Mel Gorman
2012-09-27 13:12               ` [Qemu-devel] " Mel Gorman
2012-09-27 13:12               ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-26  0:49           ` Minchan Kim
2012-09-26  0:49             ` [Qemu-devel] " Minchan Kim
2012-09-26  0:49             ` Minchan Kim
2012-09-27 12:14             ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-27 12:14               ` [Qemu-devel] " Mel Gorman
2012-09-27 12:14               ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 10:46 ` [PATCH 9/9] mm: compaction: Restart compaction from near where it left off Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 10:46   ` [Qemu-devel] " Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 10:46   ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 17:54   ` Rafael Aquini
2012-09-21 17:54     ` [Qemu-devel] " Rafael Aquini
2012-09-21 17:54     ` Rafael Aquini
2012-09-21 13:51 ` [PATCH 0/9] Reduce compaction scanning and lock contention Rik van Riel
2012-09-21 13:51   ` [Qemu-devel] " Rik van Riel
2012-09-21 13:51   ` Rik van Riel

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