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From: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Richard Davies <richard@arachsys.com>,
	Shaohua Li <shli@kernel.org>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>, QEMU-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	KVM <kvm@vger.kernel.org>, Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/9] mm: compaction: Acquire the zone->lru_lock as late as possible
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 09:23:06 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120926002306.GB7759@bbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120925143931.f404ca22.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 02:39:31PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 17:13:27 +0900
> Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org> wrote:
> 
> > I see. To me, your saying is better than current comment.
> > I hope comment could be more explicit.
> > 
> > diff --git a/mm/compaction.c b/mm/compaction.c
> > index df01b4e..f1d2cc7 100644
> > --- a/mm/compaction.c
> > +++ b/mm/compaction.c
> > @@ -542,8 +542,9 @@ isolate_migratepages_range(struct zone *zone, struct compact_control *cc,
> >                  * splitting and collapsing (collapsing has already happened
> >                  * if PageLRU is set) but the lock is not necessarily taken
> >                  * here and it is wasteful to take it just to check transhuge.
> > -                * Check transhuge without lock and skip if it's either a
> > -                * transhuge or hugetlbfs page.
> > +                * Check transhuge without lock and *skip* if it's either a
> > +                * transhuge or hugetlbfs page because it's not safe to call
> > +                * compound_order.
> >                  */
> >                 if (PageTransHuge(page)) {
> >                         if (!locked)
> 
> Going a bit further:
> 
> --- a/mm/compaction.c~mm-compaction-acquire-the-zone-lru_lock-as-late-as-possible-fix
> +++ a/mm/compaction.c
> @@ -415,7 +415,8 @@ isolate_migratepages_range(struct zone *
>  		 * if PageLRU is set) but the lock is not necessarily taken
>  		 * here and it is wasteful to take it just to check transhuge.
>  		 * Check transhuge without lock and skip if it's either a
> -		 * transhuge or hugetlbfs page.
> +		 * transhuge or hugetlbfs page because calling compound_order()
> +		 * requires lru_lock to exclude isolation and splitting.
>  		 */
>  		if (PageTransHuge(page)) {
>  			if (!locked)
> _
> 
> 
> but...  the requirement to hold lru_lock for compound_order() is news
> to me.  It doesn't seem to be written down or explained anywhere, and
> one wonders why the cheerily undocumented compound_lock() doesn't have
> this effect.  What's going on here??

First of all, I don't know why we should mention hugetlbfs in comment.
I don't know hugetlbfs well so I had a time to look through code but
can't find a place setting PG_lru so I'm not sure hugetlbfs page can
reach on this code. Please correct me if I was wrong.

On THP, I think compound_lock you mentioned is okay, too but I think
it's sort of optimization because we don't need both lru_lock and
compound_lock. If we hold lru_lock, we can't prevent race with
__split_huge_page_refcount so that the page couldn't be freed.

Namely, it's safe to call compound_order.

> 
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From: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Richard Davies <richard@arachsys.com>,
	Shaohua Li <shli@kernel.org>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>, QEMU-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	KVM <kvm@vger.kernel.org>, Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/9] mm: compaction: Acquire the zone->lru_lock as late as possible
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 09:23:06 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120926002306.GB7759@bbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120925143931.f404ca22.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 02:39:31PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 17:13:27 +0900
> Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org> wrote:
> 
> > I see. To me, your saying is better than current comment.
> > I hope comment could be more explicit.
> > 
> > diff --git a/mm/compaction.c b/mm/compaction.c
> > index df01b4e..f1d2cc7 100644
> > --- a/mm/compaction.c
> > +++ b/mm/compaction.c
> > @@ -542,8 +542,9 @@ isolate_migratepages_range(struct zone *zone, struct compact_control *cc,
> >                  * splitting and collapsing (collapsing has already happened
> >                  * if PageLRU is set) but the lock is not necessarily taken
> >                  * here and it is wasteful to take it just to check transhuge.
> > -                * Check transhuge without lock and skip if it's either a
> > -                * transhuge or hugetlbfs page.
> > +                * Check transhuge without lock and *skip* if it's either a
> > +                * transhuge or hugetlbfs page because it's not safe to call
> > +                * compound_order.
> >                  */
> >                 if (PageTransHuge(page)) {
> >                         if (!locked)
> 
> Going a bit further:
> 
> --- a/mm/compaction.c~mm-compaction-acquire-the-zone-lru_lock-as-late-as-possible-fix
> +++ a/mm/compaction.c
> @@ -415,7 +415,8 @@ isolate_migratepages_range(struct zone *
>  		 * if PageLRU is set) but the lock is not necessarily taken
>  		 * here and it is wasteful to take it just to check transhuge.
>  		 * Check transhuge without lock and skip if it's either a
> -		 * transhuge or hugetlbfs page.
> +		 * transhuge or hugetlbfs page because calling compound_order()
> +		 * requires lru_lock to exclude isolation and splitting.
>  		 */
>  		if (PageTransHuge(page)) {
>  			if (!locked)
> _
> 
> 
> but...  the requirement to hold lru_lock for compound_order() is news
> to me.  It doesn't seem to be written down or explained anywhere, and
> one wonders why the cheerily undocumented compound_lock() doesn't have
> this effect.  What's going on here??

First of all, I don't know why we should mention hugetlbfs in comment.
I don't know hugetlbfs well so I had a time to look through code but
can't find a place setting PG_lru so I'm not sure hugetlbfs page can
reach on this code. Please correct me if I was wrong.

On THP, I think compound_lock you mentioned is okay, too but I think
it's sort of optimization because we don't need both lru_lock and
compound_lock. If we hold lru_lock, we can't prevent race with
__split_huge_page_refcount so that the page couldn't be freed.

Namely, it's safe to call compound_order.

> 
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Kind regards,
Minchan Kim

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From: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Richard Davies <richard@arachsys.com>, KVM <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	QEMU-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Shaohua Li <shli@kernel.org>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/9] mm: compaction: Acquire the zone->lru_lock as late as possible
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 09:23:06 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120926002306.GB7759@bbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120925143931.f404ca22.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 02:39:31PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 17:13:27 +0900
> Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org> wrote:
> 
> > I see. To me, your saying is better than current comment.
> > I hope comment could be more explicit.
> > 
> > diff --git a/mm/compaction.c b/mm/compaction.c
> > index df01b4e..f1d2cc7 100644
> > --- a/mm/compaction.c
> > +++ b/mm/compaction.c
> > @@ -542,8 +542,9 @@ isolate_migratepages_range(struct zone *zone, struct compact_control *cc,
> >                  * splitting and collapsing (collapsing has already happened
> >                  * if PageLRU is set) but the lock is not necessarily taken
> >                  * here and it is wasteful to take it just to check transhuge.
> > -                * Check transhuge without lock and skip if it's either a
> > -                * transhuge or hugetlbfs page.
> > +                * Check transhuge without lock and *skip* if it's either a
> > +                * transhuge or hugetlbfs page because it's not safe to call
> > +                * compound_order.
> >                  */
> >                 if (PageTransHuge(page)) {
> >                         if (!locked)
> 
> Going a bit further:
> 
> --- a/mm/compaction.c~mm-compaction-acquire-the-zone-lru_lock-as-late-as-possible-fix
> +++ a/mm/compaction.c
> @@ -415,7 +415,8 @@ isolate_migratepages_range(struct zone *
>  		 * if PageLRU is set) but the lock is not necessarily taken
>  		 * here and it is wasteful to take it just to check transhuge.
>  		 * Check transhuge without lock and skip if it's either a
> -		 * transhuge or hugetlbfs page.
> +		 * transhuge or hugetlbfs page because calling compound_order()
> +		 * requires lru_lock to exclude isolation and splitting.
>  		 */
>  		if (PageTransHuge(page)) {
>  			if (!locked)
> _
> 
> 
> but...  the requirement to hold lru_lock for compound_order() is news
> to me.  It doesn't seem to be written down or explained anywhere, and
> one wonders why the cheerily undocumented compound_lock() doesn't have
> this effect.  What's going on here??

First of all, I don't know why we should mention hugetlbfs in comment.
I don't know hugetlbfs well so I had a time to look through code but
can't find a place setting PG_lru so I'm not sure hugetlbfs page can
reach on this code. Please correct me if I was wrong.

On THP, I think compound_lock you mentioned is okay, too but I think
it's sort of optimization because we don't need both lru_lock and
compound_lock. If we hold lru_lock, we can't prevent race with
__split_huge_page_refcount so that the page couldn't be freed.

Namely, it's safe to call compound_order.

> 
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Kind regards,
Minchan Kim

  reply	other threads:[~2012-09-26  0:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 126+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-21 10:46 [PATCH 0/9] Reduce compaction scanning and lock contention Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 10:46 ` [Qemu-devel] " Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 10:46 ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 10:46 ` [PATCH 1/9] Revert "mm: compaction: check lock contention first before taking lock" Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 10:46   ` [Qemu-devel] " Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 10:46   ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 17:46   ` Rafael Aquini
2012-09-21 17:46     ` [Qemu-devel] " Rafael Aquini
2012-09-21 17:46     ` Rafael Aquini
2012-09-21 10:46 ` [PATCH 2/9] Revert "mm-compaction-abort-compaction-loop-if-lock-is-contended-or-run-too-long-fix" Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 10:46   ` [Qemu-devel] " Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 10:46   ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 17:47   ` Rafael Aquini
2012-09-21 17:47     ` [Qemu-devel] " Rafael Aquini
2012-09-21 17:47     ` Rafael Aquini
2012-09-21 10:46 ` [PATCH 3/9] Revert "mm: compaction: abort compaction loop if lock is contended or run too long" Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 10:46   ` [Qemu-devel] " Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 10:46   ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 17:48   ` Rafael Aquini
2012-09-21 17:48     ` [Qemu-devel] " Rafael Aquini
2012-09-21 17:48     ` Rafael Aquini
2012-09-21 10:46 ` [PATCH 4/9] mm: compaction: Abort compaction loop if lock is contended or run too long Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 10:46   ` [Qemu-devel] " Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 10:46   ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 17:50   ` Rafael Aquini
2012-09-21 17:50     ` [Qemu-devel] " Rafael Aquini
2012-09-21 17:50     ` Rafael Aquini
2012-09-21 21:31   ` Andrew Morton
2012-09-21 21:31     ` [Qemu-devel] " Andrew Morton
2012-09-21 21:31     ` Andrew Morton
2012-09-25  7:34   ` Minchan Kim
2012-09-25  7:34     ` [Qemu-devel] " Minchan Kim
2012-09-25  7:34     ` Minchan Kim
2012-09-21 10:46 ` [PATCH 5/9] mm: compaction: Acquire the zone->lru_lock as late as possible Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 10:46   ` [Qemu-devel] " Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 10:46   ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 17:51   ` Rafael Aquini
2012-09-21 17:51     ` [Qemu-devel] " Rafael Aquini
2012-09-21 17:51     ` Rafael Aquini
2012-09-25  7:05   ` Minchan Kim
2012-09-25  7:05     ` [Qemu-devel] " Minchan Kim
2012-09-25  7:05     ` Minchan Kim
2012-09-25  7:51     ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-25  7:51       ` [Qemu-devel] " Mel Gorman
2012-09-25  7:51       ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-25  8:13       ` Minchan Kim
2012-09-25  8:13         ` [Qemu-devel] " Minchan Kim
2012-09-25  8:13         ` Minchan Kim
2012-09-25 21:39         ` Andrew Morton
2012-09-25 21:39           ` [Qemu-devel] " Andrew Morton
2012-09-25 21:39           ` Andrew Morton
2012-09-26  0:23           ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2012-09-26  0:23             ` [Qemu-devel] " Minchan Kim
2012-09-26  0:23             ` Minchan Kim
2012-09-26 10:17           ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-26 10:17             ` [Qemu-devel] " Mel Gorman
2012-09-26 10:17             ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 10:46 ` [PATCH 6/9] mm: compaction: Acquire the zone->lock " Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 10:46   ` [Qemu-devel] " Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 10:46   ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 17:52   ` Rafael Aquini
2012-09-21 17:52     ` [Qemu-devel] " Rafael Aquini
2012-09-21 17:52     ` Rafael Aquini
2012-09-21 21:35   ` Andrew Morton
2012-09-21 21:35     ` [Qemu-devel] " Andrew Morton
2012-09-21 21:35     ` Andrew Morton
2012-09-24  8:52     ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-24  8:52       ` [Qemu-devel] " Mel Gorman
2012-09-24  8:52       ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-25  7:36       ` Minchan Kim
2012-09-25  7:36         ` [Qemu-devel] " Minchan Kim
2012-09-25  7:36         ` Minchan Kim
2012-09-25  7:35   ` Minchan Kim
2012-09-25  7:35     ` [Qemu-devel] " Minchan Kim
2012-09-25  7:35     ` Minchan Kim
2012-09-21 10:46 ` [PATCH 7/9] Revert "mm: have order > 0 compaction start off where it left" Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 10:46   ` [Qemu-devel] " Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 10:46   ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 17:52   ` Rafael Aquini
2012-09-21 17:52     ` [Qemu-devel] " Rafael Aquini
2012-09-21 17:52     ` Rafael Aquini
2012-09-25  7:37   ` Minchan Kim
2012-09-25  7:37     ` [Qemu-devel] " Minchan Kim
2012-09-25  7:37     ` Minchan Kim
2012-09-21 10:46 ` [PATCH 8/9] mm: compaction: Cache if a pageblock was scanned and no pages were isolated Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 10:46   ` [Qemu-devel] " Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 10:46   ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 17:53   ` Rafael Aquini
2012-09-21 17:53     ` [Qemu-devel] " Rafael Aquini
2012-09-21 17:53     ` Rafael Aquini
2012-09-21 21:36   ` Andrew Morton
2012-09-21 21:36     ` [Qemu-devel] " Andrew Morton
2012-09-21 21:36     ` Andrew Morton
2012-09-24  9:39     ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-24  9:39       ` [Qemu-devel] " Mel Gorman
2012-09-24  9:39       ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-24 21:26       ` Andrew Morton
2012-09-24 21:26         ` [Qemu-devel] " Andrew Morton
2012-09-24 21:26         ` Andrew Morton
2012-09-25  9:12         ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-25  9:12           ` [Qemu-devel] " Mel Gorman
2012-09-25  9:12           ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-25 20:03           ` Andrew Morton
2012-09-25 20:03             ` [Qemu-devel] " Andrew Morton
2012-09-25 20:03             ` Andrew Morton
2012-09-27 12:06             ` [PATCH] mm: compaction: cache if a pageblock was scanned and no pages were isolated -fix2 Mel Gorman
2012-09-27 12:06               ` [Qemu-devel] " Mel Gorman
2012-09-27 12:06               ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-27 13:12             ` [PATCH 8/9] mm: compaction: Cache if a pageblock was scanned and no pages were isolated Mel Gorman
2012-09-27 13:12               ` [Qemu-devel] " Mel Gorman
2012-09-27 13:12               ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-26  0:49           ` Minchan Kim
2012-09-26  0:49             ` [Qemu-devel] " Minchan Kim
2012-09-26  0:49             ` Minchan Kim
2012-09-27 12:14             ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-27 12:14               ` [Qemu-devel] " Mel Gorman
2012-09-27 12:14               ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 10:46 ` [PATCH 9/9] mm: compaction: Restart compaction from near where it left off Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 10:46   ` [Qemu-devel] " Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 10:46   ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-21 17:54   ` Rafael Aquini
2012-09-21 17:54     ` [Qemu-devel] " Rafael Aquini
2012-09-21 17:54     ` Rafael Aquini
2012-09-21 13:51 ` [PATCH 0/9] Reduce compaction scanning and lock contention Rik van Riel
2012-09-21 13:51   ` [Qemu-devel] " Rik van Riel
2012-09-21 13:51   ` Rik van Riel

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