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From: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Cc: agl@linux.vnet.ibm.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: virtio: Add memory statistics reporting to the balloon driver
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:52:42 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AF9E0AA.8040100@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200911101312.02650.rusty@rustcorp.com.au>

Rusty Russell wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:02:06 am Adam Litke wrote:
>   
>> A simpler approach is to collect memory statistics in the virtio
>> balloon driver and communicate them to the host via the device config space.
>>     
>
> There are two issues I see with this.  First, there's an atomicity problem
> since you can't tell when the stats are consistent.  Second, polling is
> ugly.
>
> A stats vq might solve this more cleanly?
>   

This turns out to not work so nicely.  You really need bidirectional 
communication.  You need to request that stats be collected and then you 
need to tell the hypervisor about the stats that were collected.  You 
don't need any real correlation between requests and stat reports either.

This really models how target/actual work and I think it suggests that 
we want to reuse that mechanism for the stats too.

> Rusty.
>   


-- 
Regards,

Anthony Liguori


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From: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	agl@linux.vnet.ibm.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: virtio: Add memory statistics reporting to the balloon driver
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:52:42 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AF9E0AA.8040100@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200911101312.02650.rusty@rustcorp.com.au>

Rusty Russell wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:02:06 am Adam Litke wrote:
>   
>> A simpler approach is to collect memory statistics in the virtio
>> balloon driver and communicate them to the host via the device config space.
>>     
>
> There are two issues I see with this.  First, there's an atomicity problem
> since you can't tell when the stats are consistent.  Second, polling is
> ugly.
>
> A stats vq might solve this more cleanly?
>   

This turns out to not work so nicely.  You really need bidirectional 
communication.  You need to request that stats be collected and then you 
need to tell the hypervisor about the stats that were collected.  You 
don't need any real correlation between requests and stat reports either.

This really models how target/actual work and I think it suggests that 
we want to reuse that mechanism for the stats too.

> Rusty.
>   


-- 
Regards,

Anthony Liguori

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-11-10 21:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-09 16:07 [Qemu-devel] [RFC] virtio: Report new guest memory statistics pertinent to memory ballooning (V2) Adam Litke
2009-11-09 16:32 ` virtio: Add memory statistics reporting to the balloon driver Adam Litke
2009-11-09 16:32 ` Adam Litke
2009-11-09 16:32   ` [Qemu-devel] " Adam Litke
2009-11-10  2:42   ` Rusty Russell
2009-11-10  2:42   ` [Qemu-devel] " Rusty Russell
2009-11-10  2:42   ` Rusty Russell
2009-11-10  2:42     ` [Qemu-devel] " Rusty Russell
2009-11-10 14:36     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-10 14:36       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-10 14:43       ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-10 14:43       ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-10 14:43         ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-10 14:58         ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-10 14:58           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-11  9:24           ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-11  9:24             ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-11 10:12             ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-11-11 10:12             ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-11-11 10:12               ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-11-11 13:26               ` Adam Litke
2009-11-11 13:26               ` Adam Litke
2009-11-11 13:26                 ` Adam Litke
2009-11-11 15:00                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-11 15:00                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-11 15:00                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-11  9:24           ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-10 14:58         ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-10 23:59       ` Rusty Russell
2009-11-10 23:59       ` Rusty Russell
2009-11-10 23:59         ` Rusty Russell
2009-11-10 14:36     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-10 21:52     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-10 21:52     ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2009-11-10 21:52       ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-11-11  0:02       ` Rusty Russell
2009-11-11  0:02       ` Rusty Russell
2009-11-11  0:02         ` [Qemu-devel] " Rusty Russell
2009-11-11  0:07         ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-11  0:07           ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-11-11  2:43           ` Rusty Russell
2009-11-11  2:43           ` Rusty Russell
2009-11-11  2:43             ` [Qemu-devel] " Rusty Russell
2009-11-11 15:08             ` Adam Litke
2009-11-11 15:08               ` [Qemu-devel] " Adam Litke
2009-11-12  2:29               ` Rusty Russell
2009-11-12  2:29               ` Rusty Russell
2009-11-12  2:29                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Rusty Russell
2009-11-11 15:08             ` Adam Litke
2009-11-11  0:07         ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-10  2:42   ` [Qemu-devel] " Rusty Russell
2009-11-09 19:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] virtio: Report new guest memory statistics pertinent to memory ballooning (V2) Jamie Lokier
2009-11-09 19:16   ` Adam Litke
2009-11-09 21:15   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-10 13:23     ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-09 19:01 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-09 19:23   ` Adam Litke
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-11-05 22:50 [Qemu-devel] [RFC] virtio: Report new guest memory statistics pertinent to memory ballooning Adam Litke
2009-11-05 23:02 ` [Qemu-devel] virtio: Add memory statistics reporting to the balloon driver Adam Litke
2009-11-05 23:39   ` Anthony Liguori

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