From: Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com>
To: buildroot@busybox.net
Subject: [Buildroot] [PATCH 0/3] Support for out-of-tree Buildroot customization
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:17:00 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130911091700.0b24df41@skate> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <OF0AEEFBDE.5291EB54-ON86257BE3.0005DA76-86257BE3.00087A88@rockwellcollins.com>
Ryan,
First of all, thanks for the feedback.
On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 20:32:32 -0500, rjbarnet at rockwellcollins.com wrote:
> Thank you so much for this patchset as it address the biggest issue that
> my company currently has with buildroot and will help us become a much
> bigger
> contributer to buildroot since we can move to a model that is conducive to
> contributing changes back up to buildroot.
Glad to hear this!
> > Following the e-mail from Ryan Barnett entitled "[RFC] New feature to
> > handle a custom board folder", I finally took a bit of time to
> > implement how I think the support for externally stored Buildroot
> > customization should be done.
>
> After getting feedback from Arnout my idea of how this shifted towards
> the model that you've implemented here in this patchset. However, without
> intimate knowledge of top-level make structure/kconfig, I didn't quite
> visualize this implementation.
>
> With the Buildroot mailing list I did not see this patchset until this
> morning so you can disregard my thoughts about my second revision of how
> to approach this problem even though I was starting to gravitate towards
> this approach. However, my reasoning of why I would like to push for some
> thing like this still stand.
Ok. Note that after I posted my patches, I had a discussion with Yann
Morin on IRC and he was skeptical about it, for two reasons:
(1) Almost all of what BR2_EXTERNAL allows is possible today with the
current Buildroot. For board level stuff, nothing forces you to
store it in board/<foo>/ within the Buildroot tree: all of the
configuration options in Buildroot can use
$(TOPDIR)/../company/<foo>/ to reference a kernel configuration
file, or a root filesystem overlay.
For packages, the 'local.mk' file is already automatically
included in Buildroot if it exists. So you can create such a file
and put a "include $(TOPDIR)/../company/external.mk' line in it.
This external.mk will include all the makefiles of the external
packages. Since Config.in can't be integrated as easily, one
solution would be to hardcode BR2_PACKAGE_FOOBAR=y directly within
external.mk to have it always enabled.
So, it's already possible today, but I believe the current
situation is (a) not very easy to use, and (b) not visible enough.
(b) could be solved by more documentation, but I believe
BR2_EXTERNAL does not make Buildroot more complicated and solves
(a) quite nicely.
(2) Yann's feeling was that by giving a too easy solution to keep
things out of tree would discourage BR users from contributing
their new packages upstream, since they can keep it outside of the
tree nicely. While I certainly admit it can be the case, your
introduction to this e-mail interestingly points exactly the
opposite :-)
Best regards,
Thomas Petazzoni
--
Thomas Petazzoni, Free Electrons
Kernel, drivers, real-time and embedded Linux
development, consulting, training and support.
http://free-electrons.com
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Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-09-08 13:15 [Buildroot] [PATCH 0/3] Support for out-of-tree Buildroot customization Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-08 13:15 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 1/3] Makefile: factorize *config dependencies Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-11 2:06 ` rjbarnet at rockwellcollins.com
2013-09-11 17:39 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-08 13:15 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 2/3] Add support for BR2_EXTERNAL Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-11 2:03 ` rjbarnet at rockwellcollins.com
2013-09-11 17:03 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-11 17:12 ` Ryan Barnett
2013-09-12 21:05 ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-12 21:30 ` Ryan Barnett
2013-09-12 21:41 ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-12 21:51 ` Ryan Barnett
2013-09-12 21:57 ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-12 22:11 ` Ryan Barnett
2013-09-13 20:56 ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-14 5:29 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-11 2:07 ` rjbarnet at rockwellcollins.com
2013-09-12 21:04 ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-13 3:48 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-13 6:43 ` Tzu-Jung Lee
2013-09-13 7:10 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-13 7:47 ` Tzu-Jung Lee
[not found] ` <CAC2S8kiHUwNFprvvYd85UEGjDJhEX0Jgtb4e7Pd1vwwFGF7m_w@mail.gmail.com>
2013-09-12 21:53 ` [Buildroot] Fwd: " Ryan Barnett
2013-09-08 13:15 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 3/3] docs/manual: add explanations about BR2_EXTERNAL Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-11 2:09 ` rjbarnet at rockwellcollins.com
2013-09-12 21:46 ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-13 6:53 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-11 1:32 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 0/3] Support for out-of-tree Buildroot customization rjbarnet at rockwellcollins.com
2013-09-11 7:17 ` Thomas Petazzoni [this message]
2013-09-11 15:55 ` Ryan Barnett
2013-09-11 17:27 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-12 7:54 ` Thomas De Schampheleire
2013-09-12 18:21 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-12 18:25 ` ANDY KENNEDY
2013-09-12 18:33 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-12 18:44 ` ANDY KENNEDY
2013-09-12 22:04 ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-12 22:12 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-13 21:50 ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-14 22:16 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-16 15:43 ` ANDY KENNEDY
2013-09-16 17:30 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-16 18:26 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-16 18:58 ` ANDY KENNEDY
2013-09-16 16:21 ` [Buildroot] Is GPLv2 the right license for Buildroot? Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-16 17:08 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-16 17:45 ` ANDY KENNEDY
2013-09-16 18:01 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-16 18:16 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-16 21:17 ` Peter Korsgaard
2013-09-18 1:50 ` Jason Rennie
2013-09-18 7:22 ` Peter Korsgaard
2013-09-18 22:09 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-19 0:25 ` Jason Rennie
2013-09-19 17:54 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-16 17:58 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-16 18:15 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-16 18:24 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-16 18:56 ` ANDY KENNEDY
2013-09-16 20:04 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-17 4:17 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-16 19:50 ` Grant Edwards
2013-09-16 20:15 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-18 1:52 ` Jason Rennie
2013-09-16 19:53 ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-16 21:13 ` Peter Korsgaard
2013-09-16 21:12 ` Peter Korsgaard
2013-09-17 4:44 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-17 14:53 ` Grant Edwards
2013-09-17 15:17 ` Jeremy Rosen
2013-09-17 15:22 ` Grant Edwards
2013-09-17 15:29 ` Peter Korsgaard
2013-09-16 18:56 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 0/3] Support for out-of-tree Buildroot customization Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-12 22:07 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-12 22:28 ` ANDY KENNEDY
2013-09-12 22:47 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-15 13:18 ` Thomas De Schampheleire
2013-09-12 21:51 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-13 7:35 ` Thomas De Schampheleire
2013-09-13 15:55 ` Ryan Barnett
2013-09-12 21:50 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-12 18:18 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-12 22:24 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-11 5:00 ` Baruch Siach
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