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From: Arnout Vandecappelle <arnout@mind.be>
To: buildroot@busybox.net
Subject: [Buildroot] [PATCH 0/3] Support for out-of-tree Buildroot customization
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 23:50:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <523388B6.7090305@mind.be> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130912221256.GE3362@free.fr>

On 13/09/13 00:12, Yann E. MORIN wrote:
> On 2013-09-13 00:04 +0200, Arnout Vandecappelle spake thusly:
[snip]
>> but the GPL is pretty
>> clear on this:
>>
>> "If identifiable sections of that work are not derived from the Program,
>> and can be reasonably considered independent and separate works in
>> themselves, then this License, and its terms, do not apply to those
>> sections when you distribute them as separate works."
>>
>>   i.e. you can distribute the source of buildroot itself separately from your
>> external directory.
>
> Yes, but I believe BR2_EXTERNAL *is* a derived work of Buildroot, so as
> such should be licensed under a license compatible with Buildroot's.
>
>>   As long as your external stuff merely aggregates with the GPL'd stuff under
>> buildroot, there shouldn't be an issue.
>
> But that's not aggregation in my opinion, since it does leverage all or
> parts of the Buildroot infrastrucutre, and was clearly written with this
> intent, and as such can not be considered mere aggregation.
>
> Of course, all this only applies _if and when_ BR2_EXTERNAL gets
> distributed to a third party.

  The more I think about it, the more confused I get :-) Although your 
other reply to Andy sums things up pretty clearly.

  Let me try out a few scenarios (I'm making things up as I go here).

  I have made some changes to buildroot, and I have also made an external 
tree.


1. I want to distribute the modified buildroot tree to someone. Do I also 
have to make the external one available?

  => No, because the buildroot tree in fact doesn't refer to the external 
tree. You run "BR2_EXTERNAL=... make".


2. I distribute a rootfs which contains a GPL program (bash). Do I have 
to make the buildroot tree available?

  => Yes, because I have to make the build scripts for bash available, 
and buildroot is the build script that I've used.


3. I use buildroot to build lua. I copy the lua executable out of the 
target/ tree and distribute it. Do I have to make the buildroot tree 
available?

  => No, because lua is MIT licensed.


4. I distribute a rootfs which contains a GPL program (bash). It also 
contains a proprietary program (foo). I have added a foo.mk file to the 
buildroot tree to build my proprietary program. Do I have to make the 
modified buildroot tree available?

  => Probably not. I have to make the build script for bash available, 
but the original buildroot tree already does the job.

  I believe that this reasoning holds regardless of whether the foo.mk is 
added directly in the buildroot tree or through BR2_EXTERNAL (or through 
override.mk).


5. I add a proprietary binary to the default skeleton and distribute the 
rootfs built by buildroot. Do I have to make the modified buildroot with 
the proprietary binary available?

  => I don't think so, because the proprietary binary is merely 
aggregated with the rest of the buildroot-generated stuff.


6. Can I give the buildroot tree + the external tree to someone else?

  => Yes, but only under the GPL - the GPL applies to the external tree 
as well.



  After thinking about it this much, it looks like the buildroot license 
is a lot more lenient than I first thought. But of course, I don't really 
now.


  Maybe we should organize a discussion about this in the legal track at 
FOSDEM.


  Regards,
  Arnout
-- 
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  reply	other threads:[~2013-09-13 21:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-08 13:15 [Buildroot] [PATCH 0/3] Support for out-of-tree Buildroot customization Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-08 13:15 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 1/3] Makefile: factorize *config dependencies Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-11  2:06   ` rjbarnet at rockwellcollins.com
2013-09-11 17:39   ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-08 13:15 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 2/3] Add support for BR2_EXTERNAL Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-11  2:03   ` rjbarnet at rockwellcollins.com
2013-09-11 17:03     ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-11 17:12       ` Ryan Barnett
2013-09-12 21:05     ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-12 21:30       ` Ryan Barnett
2013-09-12 21:41         ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-12 21:51           ` Ryan Barnett
2013-09-12 21:57             ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-12 22:11               ` Ryan Barnett
2013-09-13 20:56                 ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-14  5:29                   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-11  2:07   ` rjbarnet at rockwellcollins.com
2013-09-12 21:04   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-13  3:48     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-13  6:43       ` Tzu-Jung Lee
2013-09-13  7:10         ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-13  7:47           ` Tzu-Jung Lee
     [not found]   ` <CAC2S8kiHUwNFprvvYd85UEGjDJhEX0Jgtb4e7Pd1vwwFGF7m_w@mail.gmail.com>
2013-09-12 21:53     ` [Buildroot] Fwd: " Ryan Barnett
2013-09-08 13:15 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 3/3] docs/manual: add explanations about BR2_EXTERNAL Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-11  2:09   ` rjbarnet at rockwellcollins.com
2013-09-12 21:46   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-13  6:53     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-11  1:32 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 0/3] Support for out-of-tree Buildroot customization rjbarnet at rockwellcollins.com
2013-09-11  7:17   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-11 15:55     ` Ryan Barnett
2013-09-11 17:27       ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-12  7:54         ` Thomas De Schampheleire
2013-09-12 18:21           ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-12 18:25             ` ANDY KENNEDY
2013-09-12 18:33               ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-12 18:44                 ` ANDY KENNEDY
2013-09-12 22:04                 ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-12 22:12                   ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-13 21:50                     ` Arnout Vandecappelle [this message]
2013-09-14 22:16                       ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-16 15:43                         ` ANDY KENNEDY
2013-09-16 17:30                           ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-16 18:26                             ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-16 18:58                               ` ANDY KENNEDY
2013-09-16 16:21                         ` [Buildroot] Is GPLv2 the right license for Buildroot? Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-16 17:08                           ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-16 17:45                             ` ANDY KENNEDY
2013-09-16 18:01                               ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-16 18:16                                 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-16 21:17                                 ` Peter Korsgaard
2013-09-18  1:50                                 ` Jason Rennie
2013-09-18  7:22                                   ` Peter Korsgaard
2013-09-18 22:09                                   ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-19  0:25                                     ` Jason Rennie
2013-09-19 17:54                                       ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-16 17:58                             ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-16 18:15                               ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-16 18:24                                 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-16 18:56                                   ` ANDY KENNEDY
2013-09-16 20:04                                   ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-17  4:17                                     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-16 19:50                             ` Grant Edwards
2013-09-16 20:15                               ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-18  1:52                               ` Jason Rennie
2013-09-16 19:53                             ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-16 21:13                             ` Peter Korsgaard
2013-09-16 21:12                           ` Peter Korsgaard
2013-09-17  4:44                             ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-17 14:53                               ` Grant Edwards
2013-09-17 15:17                                 ` Jeremy Rosen
2013-09-17 15:22                                   ` Grant Edwards
2013-09-17 15:29                                 ` Peter Korsgaard
2013-09-16 18:56                         ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 0/3] Support for out-of-tree Buildroot customization Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-12 22:07                 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-12 22:28                   ` ANDY KENNEDY
2013-09-12 22:47                     ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-15 13:18                       ` Thomas De Schampheleire
2013-09-12 21:51             ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-13  7:35             ` Thomas De Schampheleire
2013-09-13 15:55               ` Ryan Barnett
2013-09-12 21:50           ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-12 18:18         ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-12 22:24           ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-11  5:00 ` Baruch Siach

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