From: Yann E. MORIN <yann.morin.1998@free.fr>
To: buildroot@busybox.net
Subject: [Buildroot] Is GPLv2 the right license for Buildroot?
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 20:15:12 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130916181512.GD3293@free.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130916195846.32e98c8a@skate>
Thomas, All,
On 2013-09-16 19:58 +0200, Thomas Petazzoni spake thusly:
> On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 19:08:15 +0200, Yann E. MORIN wrote:
> > Now, let's try to make things clear:
> >
> > - on an embedded system, the probability that there is a GPL program
> > is rather high (eg. busybox, the Linux kernel);
> >
> > - lets assume Buildroot is used to build those programs;
> >
> > - the GPL (as applied to _those_ programs, not Buildroot) mandates
> > that the script to control compilation and installation of those
> > programs be made available (section of GPLv2);
>
> Whether Buildroot is part of such scripts or not remains a slightly
> open question. That the kernel makefiles and scripts, the Busybox
> makefiles and scripts should remain part of the kernel and Busybox
> sources is clear. That the tool that is used to orchestrate the overall
> building process is part of those "script to control compilation and
> installation" is not so clear-cut from my point of view.
>
> At least so far, I don't think I've seen many companies using
> Buildroot, on products that include GPL components, providing the
> source code for Buildroot.
I never said you *had* to provide the Buildroot tree. I said that
providing it was *easier* than trying to separately provide build
instructions for each GPL program on the device.
> > - so the easiest way to comply with those programs' GPL is to
> > distribute the Buildroot tree that was used to build the target
> > filesystem, since it does contain all required recipes (aka the
> > scripts of section 3 of the GPLv2)
>
> Right, but it is not necessarily easy to separate within Buildroot the
> thing that you are ready to distribute (package recipes of open-source
> programs) from the package recipes of proprietary programs, your root
> filesystem overlay and so on.
But your BR2_EXTERNAL will make this really trivial:
- do all FLOSS stuff in Buildroot tree
- do all proprietary stuff in BR2_EXTERNAL
- provide the Buidlroot tree to be compliant
- keep BR2_EXTERNAL private
Et voil?! :-)
>
> What I'm questioning is really the case where a company makes an
> embedded product, and has used Buildroot to generate a rootfs that
> includes GPL programs, is this company required to distribute Buildroot.
Short answer: no.
Long answer: no, but it is an easy path.
> > I lean toward an explanation in the manual (with proper disclaimer
> > that entice the user to seek legal counsel).
>
> Fair enough. Care to submit a patch? :-)
I sure can help write and review such a change.
We just have to settle on what we want to put in there: BR2_EXTERNAL:
derived work or not? ;-)
But not before next week, I have to finish my presentations for KR`13
first! ;-)
Regards,
Yann E. MORIN.
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Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-09-08 13:15 [Buildroot] [PATCH 0/3] Support for out-of-tree Buildroot customization Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-08 13:15 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 1/3] Makefile: factorize *config dependencies Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-11 2:06 ` rjbarnet at rockwellcollins.com
2013-09-11 17:39 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-08 13:15 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 2/3] Add support for BR2_EXTERNAL Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-11 2:03 ` rjbarnet at rockwellcollins.com
2013-09-11 17:03 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-11 17:12 ` Ryan Barnett
2013-09-12 21:05 ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-12 21:30 ` Ryan Barnett
2013-09-12 21:41 ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-12 21:51 ` Ryan Barnett
2013-09-12 21:57 ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-12 22:11 ` Ryan Barnett
2013-09-13 20:56 ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-14 5:29 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-11 2:07 ` rjbarnet at rockwellcollins.com
2013-09-12 21:04 ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-13 3:48 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-13 6:43 ` Tzu-Jung Lee
2013-09-13 7:10 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-13 7:47 ` Tzu-Jung Lee
[not found] ` <CAC2S8kiHUwNFprvvYd85UEGjDJhEX0Jgtb4e7Pd1vwwFGF7m_w@mail.gmail.com>
2013-09-12 21:53 ` [Buildroot] Fwd: " Ryan Barnett
2013-09-08 13:15 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 3/3] docs/manual: add explanations about BR2_EXTERNAL Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-11 2:09 ` rjbarnet at rockwellcollins.com
2013-09-12 21:46 ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-13 6:53 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-11 1:32 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 0/3] Support for out-of-tree Buildroot customization rjbarnet at rockwellcollins.com
2013-09-11 7:17 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-11 15:55 ` Ryan Barnett
2013-09-11 17:27 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-12 7:54 ` Thomas De Schampheleire
2013-09-12 18:21 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-12 18:25 ` ANDY KENNEDY
2013-09-12 18:33 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-12 18:44 ` ANDY KENNEDY
2013-09-12 22:04 ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-12 22:12 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-13 21:50 ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-14 22:16 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-16 15:43 ` ANDY KENNEDY
2013-09-16 17:30 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-16 18:26 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-16 18:58 ` ANDY KENNEDY
2013-09-16 16:21 ` [Buildroot] Is GPLv2 the right license for Buildroot? Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-16 17:08 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-16 17:45 ` ANDY KENNEDY
2013-09-16 18:01 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-16 18:16 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-16 21:17 ` Peter Korsgaard
2013-09-18 1:50 ` Jason Rennie
2013-09-18 7:22 ` Peter Korsgaard
2013-09-18 22:09 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-19 0:25 ` Jason Rennie
2013-09-19 17:54 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-16 17:58 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-16 18:15 ` Yann E. MORIN [this message]
2013-09-16 18:24 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-16 18:56 ` ANDY KENNEDY
2013-09-16 20:04 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-17 4:17 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-16 19:50 ` Grant Edwards
2013-09-16 20:15 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-18 1:52 ` Jason Rennie
2013-09-16 19:53 ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-16 21:13 ` Peter Korsgaard
2013-09-16 21:12 ` Peter Korsgaard
2013-09-17 4:44 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-17 14:53 ` Grant Edwards
2013-09-17 15:17 ` Jeremy Rosen
2013-09-17 15:22 ` Grant Edwards
2013-09-17 15:29 ` Peter Korsgaard
2013-09-16 18:56 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 0/3] Support for out-of-tree Buildroot customization Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-12 22:07 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-12 22:28 ` ANDY KENNEDY
2013-09-12 22:47 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-15 13:18 ` Thomas De Schampheleire
2013-09-12 21:51 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-13 7:35 ` Thomas De Schampheleire
2013-09-13 15:55 ` Ryan Barnett
2013-09-12 21:50 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-12 18:18 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-12 22:24 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-11 5:00 ` Baruch Siach
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