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From: Yann E. MORIN <yann.morin.1998@free.fr>
To: buildroot@busybox.net
Subject: [Buildroot] Is GPLv2 the right license for Buildroot?
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 20:15:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130916181512.GD3293@free.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130916195846.32e98c8a@skate>

Thomas, All,

On 2013-09-16 19:58 +0200, Thomas Petazzoni spake thusly:
> On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 19:08:15 +0200, Yann E. MORIN wrote:
> > Now, let's try to make things clear:
> > 
> >   - on an embedded system, the probability that there is a GPL program
> >     is rather high (eg. busybox, the Linux kernel);
> > 
> >   - lets assume Buildroot is used to build those programs;
> > 
> >   - the GPL (as applied to _those_ programs, not Buildroot) mandates
> >     that the script to control compilation and installation of those
> >     programs be made available (section of GPLv2);
> 
> Whether Buildroot is part of such scripts or not remains a slightly
> open question. That the kernel makefiles and scripts, the Busybox
> makefiles and scripts should remain part of the kernel and Busybox
> sources is clear. That the tool that is used to orchestrate the overall
> building process is part of those "script to control compilation and
> installation" is not so clear-cut from my point of view.
> 
> At least so far, I don't think I've seen many companies using
> Buildroot, on products that include GPL components, providing the
> source code for Buildroot.

I never said you *had* to provide the Buildroot tree. I said that
providing it was *easier* than trying to separately provide build
instructions for each GPL program on the device.

> >   - so the easiest way to comply with those programs' GPL is to
> >     distribute the Buildroot tree that was used to build the target
> >     filesystem, since it does contain all required recipes (aka the
> >     scripts of section 3 of the GPLv2)
> 
> Right, but it is not necessarily easy to separate within Buildroot the
> thing that you are ready to distribute (package recipes of open-source
> programs) from the package recipes of proprietary programs, your root
> filesystem overlay and so on.

But your BR2_EXTERNAL will make this really trivial:
  - do all FLOSS stuff in Buildroot tree
  - do all proprietary stuff in BR2_EXTERNAL
  - provide the Buidlroot tree to be compliant
  - keep BR2_EXTERNAL private

Et voil?! :-)

> 
> What I'm questioning is really the case where a company makes an
> embedded product, and has used Buildroot to generate a rootfs that
> includes GPL programs, is this company required to distribute Buildroot.

Short answer: no.
Long answer: no, but it is an easy path.

> > I lean toward an explanation in the manual (with proper disclaimer
> > that entice the user to seek legal counsel).
> 
> Fair enough. Care to submit a patch? :-)

I sure can help write and review such a change.

We just have to settle on what we want to put in there: BR2_EXTERNAL:
derived work or not? ;-)

But not before next week, I have to finish my presentations for KR`13
first! ;-)

Regards,
Yann E. MORIN.

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-09-16 18:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-08 13:15 [Buildroot] [PATCH 0/3] Support for out-of-tree Buildroot customization Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-08 13:15 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 1/3] Makefile: factorize *config dependencies Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-11  2:06   ` rjbarnet at rockwellcollins.com
2013-09-11 17:39   ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-08 13:15 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 2/3] Add support for BR2_EXTERNAL Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-11  2:03   ` rjbarnet at rockwellcollins.com
2013-09-11 17:03     ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-11 17:12       ` Ryan Barnett
2013-09-12 21:05     ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-12 21:30       ` Ryan Barnett
2013-09-12 21:41         ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-12 21:51           ` Ryan Barnett
2013-09-12 21:57             ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-12 22:11               ` Ryan Barnett
2013-09-13 20:56                 ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-14  5:29                   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-11  2:07   ` rjbarnet at rockwellcollins.com
2013-09-12 21:04   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-13  3:48     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-13  6:43       ` Tzu-Jung Lee
2013-09-13  7:10         ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-13  7:47           ` Tzu-Jung Lee
     [not found]   ` <CAC2S8kiHUwNFprvvYd85UEGjDJhEX0Jgtb4e7Pd1vwwFGF7m_w@mail.gmail.com>
2013-09-12 21:53     ` [Buildroot] Fwd: " Ryan Barnett
2013-09-08 13:15 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 3/3] docs/manual: add explanations about BR2_EXTERNAL Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-11  2:09   ` rjbarnet at rockwellcollins.com
2013-09-12 21:46   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-13  6:53     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-11  1:32 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 0/3] Support for out-of-tree Buildroot customization rjbarnet at rockwellcollins.com
2013-09-11  7:17   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-11 15:55     ` Ryan Barnett
2013-09-11 17:27       ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-12  7:54         ` Thomas De Schampheleire
2013-09-12 18:21           ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-12 18:25             ` ANDY KENNEDY
2013-09-12 18:33               ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-12 18:44                 ` ANDY KENNEDY
2013-09-12 22:04                 ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-12 22:12                   ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-13 21:50                     ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-14 22:16                       ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-16 15:43                         ` ANDY KENNEDY
2013-09-16 17:30                           ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-16 18:26                             ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-16 18:58                               ` ANDY KENNEDY
2013-09-16 16:21                         ` [Buildroot] Is GPLv2 the right license for Buildroot? Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-16 17:08                           ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-16 17:45                             ` ANDY KENNEDY
2013-09-16 18:01                               ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-16 18:16                                 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-16 21:17                                 ` Peter Korsgaard
2013-09-18  1:50                                 ` Jason Rennie
2013-09-18  7:22                                   ` Peter Korsgaard
2013-09-18 22:09                                   ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-19  0:25                                     ` Jason Rennie
2013-09-19 17:54                                       ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-16 17:58                             ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-16 18:15                               ` Yann E. MORIN [this message]
2013-09-16 18:24                                 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-16 18:56                                   ` ANDY KENNEDY
2013-09-16 20:04                                   ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-17  4:17                                     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-16 19:50                             ` Grant Edwards
2013-09-16 20:15                               ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-18  1:52                               ` Jason Rennie
2013-09-16 19:53                             ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-16 21:13                             ` Peter Korsgaard
2013-09-16 21:12                           ` Peter Korsgaard
2013-09-17  4:44                             ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-17 14:53                               ` Grant Edwards
2013-09-17 15:17                                 ` Jeremy Rosen
2013-09-17 15:22                                   ` Grant Edwards
2013-09-17 15:29                                 ` Peter Korsgaard
2013-09-16 18:56                         ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 0/3] Support for out-of-tree Buildroot customization Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-12 22:07                 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-12 22:28                   ` ANDY KENNEDY
2013-09-12 22:47                     ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-15 13:18                       ` Thomas De Schampheleire
2013-09-12 21:51             ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-13  7:35             ` Thomas De Schampheleire
2013-09-13 15:55               ` Ryan Barnett
2013-09-12 21:50           ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-12 18:18         ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-12 22:24           ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-11  5:00 ` Baruch Siach

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