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From: Yann E. MORIN <yann.morin.1998@free.fr>
To: buildroot@busybox.net
Subject: [Buildroot] [PATCH 0/3] Support for out-of-tree Buildroot customization
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 00:07:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130912220757.GD3362@free.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130912203359.7e650ebe@skate>

Thomas, All,

On 2013-09-12 20:33 +0200, Thomas Petazzoni spake thusly:
> On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 18:25:40 +0000, ANDY KENNEDY wrote:
> 
> > This sounds much like the way Linux does things for the IP related
> > drivers.  Is that the intent we are going for (personally, I think this
> > is a GREAT idea, as it allows companies to have IP related widgets in
> > BuildRoot without the fear of being REQUIRED to push back their secret
> > sauce)?
> > 
> > If that is what you intend, you have my vote!
> 
> I am not sure what you mean by "IP related drivers". Do you mean
> proprietary drivers?
> 
> It is true that the BR2_EXTERNAL thing raises a licensing question:
> should the BR2_EXTERNAL contents also be released under GPLv2, like the
> rest of Buildroot? Do we really want the root filesystem overlays and
> other highly project-specific contents be released under GPLv2 ?

IANAL, this is not legal advice, talk to your lawyer.

Here are however my toughts on this:

 1- all the Config.in and package.mk files, plus the external.mk file,
    and all other files sourced or otherwise included by a file from
    Buildroot (and thus use Buildroot's infrastructure) could be
    considered a derived work of Buildroot, and thus must be licensed
    with a compatible license,
 2- the defconfigs could be considered as what the GPL identifies as the
    "scripts used to control compilation and installation of the
    executable", since without the .config file, an end-user can not
    reproduce the executable(s),
 3- everything else might be considered not a derived work of Buildroot,
    and might not be required to be licensed with a license compatible
    with Buildroot's license.

Explanations:

1- It's not because it is to be licensed under a license compatible with
   the Buildroot  license that it *has* to be distributed. Just that if
   it *is* distributed, the licensing terms on that should be compatible
   with Buildroot's licensing terms.

2- That's because Buildroot will most probably build a GPL/LGPL program
   that will end up in the ytarget that this applies, because of the
   license of those programs, not because of Buildroot's license. Even
   if Buildroot was under a different license, this would still apply as
   long as a GPL/LGPL program ends up in the target.

3- By "everything else", I mean: a package (in Buildroot's terminology:
   the Config.in and associated .mk file) that directly embbeds the source
   files (.c and .h and ...) for this package (like the host-mkpasswd).
   These source files can not be considered a derived work of Buildroot,
   so Buildroot's license does not apply to those.

So, I think the make legal-stuff should descend into BR2_EXTERNAL, as if
it was an integral part of Buildroot.

BR2_EXTERNAL is here *just* to separate parts of the recipes from the
upstream ones, as a mean to clearly separate local changes from the
upstream reference.

But again: IANAL, this is not legal advice, talk to your legal counsel.

Regards,
Yann E. MORIN.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-09-12 22:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-08 13:15 [Buildroot] [PATCH 0/3] Support for out-of-tree Buildroot customization Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-08 13:15 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 1/3] Makefile: factorize *config dependencies Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-11  2:06   ` rjbarnet at rockwellcollins.com
2013-09-11 17:39   ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-08 13:15 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 2/3] Add support for BR2_EXTERNAL Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-11  2:03   ` rjbarnet at rockwellcollins.com
2013-09-11 17:03     ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-11 17:12       ` Ryan Barnett
2013-09-12 21:05     ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-12 21:30       ` Ryan Barnett
2013-09-12 21:41         ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-12 21:51           ` Ryan Barnett
2013-09-12 21:57             ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-12 22:11               ` Ryan Barnett
2013-09-13 20:56                 ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-14  5:29                   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-11  2:07   ` rjbarnet at rockwellcollins.com
2013-09-12 21:04   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-13  3:48     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-13  6:43       ` Tzu-Jung Lee
2013-09-13  7:10         ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-13  7:47           ` Tzu-Jung Lee
     [not found]   ` <CAC2S8kiHUwNFprvvYd85UEGjDJhEX0Jgtb4e7Pd1vwwFGF7m_w@mail.gmail.com>
2013-09-12 21:53     ` [Buildroot] Fwd: " Ryan Barnett
2013-09-08 13:15 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 3/3] docs/manual: add explanations about BR2_EXTERNAL Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-11  2:09   ` rjbarnet at rockwellcollins.com
2013-09-12 21:46   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-13  6:53     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-11  1:32 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 0/3] Support for out-of-tree Buildroot customization rjbarnet at rockwellcollins.com
2013-09-11  7:17   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-11 15:55     ` Ryan Barnett
2013-09-11 17:27       ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-12  7:54         ` Thomas De Schampheleire
2013-09-12 18:21           ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-12 18:25             ` ANDY KENNEDY
2013-09-12 18:33               ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-12 18:44                 ` ANDY KENNEDY
2013-09-12 22:04                 ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-12 22:12                   ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-13 21:50                     ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-14 22:16                       ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-16 15:43                         ` ANDY KENNEDY
2013-09-16 17:30                           ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-16 18:26                             ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-16 18:58                               ` ANDY KENNEDY
2013-09-16 16:21                         ` [Buildroot] Is GPLv2 the right license for Buildroot? Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-16 17:08                           ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-16 17:45                             ` ANDY KENNEDY
2013-09-16 18:01                               ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-16 18:16                                 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-16 21:17                                 ` Peter Korsgaard
2013-09-18  1:50                                 ` Jason Rennie
2013-09-18  7:22                                   ` Peter Korsgaard
2013-09-18 22:09                                   ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-19  0:25                                     ` Jason Rennie
2013-09-19 17:54                                       ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-16 17:58                             ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-16 18:15                               ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-16 18:24                                 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-16 18:56                                   ` ANDY KENNEDY
2013-09-16 20:04                                   ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-17  4:17                                     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-16 19:50                             ` Grant Edwards
2013-09-16 20:15                               ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-18  1:52                               ` Jason Rennie
2013-09-16 19:53                             ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-16 21:13                             ` Peter Korsgaard
2013-09-16 21:12                           ` Peter Korsgaard
2013-09-17  4:44                             ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-17 14:53                               ` Grant Edwards
2013-09-17 15:17                                 ` Jeremy Rosen
2013-09-17 15:22                                   ` Grant Edwards
2013-09-17 15:29                                 ` Peter Korsgaard
2013-09-16 18:56                         ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 0/3] Support for out-of-tree Buildroot customization Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-12 22:07                 ` Yann E. MORIN [this message]
2013-09-12 22:28                   ` ANDY KENNEDY
2013-09-12 22:47                     ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-15 13:18                       ` Thomas De Schampheleire
2013-09-12 21:51             ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-13  7:35             ` Thomas De Schampheleire
2013-09-13 15:55               ` Ryan Barnett
2013-09-12 21:50           ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-12 18:18         ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-12 22:24           ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-11  5:00 ` Baruch Siach

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