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From: Peter Korsgaard <jacmet@uclibc.org>
To: buildroot@busybox.net
Subject: [Buildroot] Is GPLv2 the right license for Buildroot?
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 23:12:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87vc20fp2g.fsf@dell.be.48ers.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130916182101.3844a686@skate> (Thomas Petazzoni's message of "Mon, 16 Sep 2013 18:21:01 +0200")

>>>>> "Thomas" == Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com> writes:

Hi,

 Thomas> So, I believe that we should either:

 Thomas>  (1) Clarify and document how we believe the GPL terms apply to
 Thomas>      Buildroot (this would probably be a long discussion process, in
 Thomas>      which the SFLC should probably participate). When I see the
 Thomas>      discussions around BR2_EXTERNAL where the package .mk files and
 Thomas>      Config.in files may be seen as derivative work, but not the root
 Thomas>      filesystem overlay, or that package .mk files for GPL packages
 Thomas>      should be under the GPL, but not necessarily .mk files for non-GPL
 Thomas>      packages, I believe it is way too complicated for users. To me, it
 Thomas>      seems like complying with the Buildroot license is more
 Thomas>      complicated than using Buildroot itself, which is kind of silly.

We have already tried to clarify it in the user manual:

http://buildroot.net/downloads/manual/manual.html#_complying_with_the_buildroot_license

E.G. Buildroot should be handled just like how you handle the Linux
kernel and Busybox.


 Thomas>  (2) Change the Buildroot license to a non-copyleft license. Of course,
 Thomas>      that requires contacting a lot of people, but maybe not so much:
 Thomas>      over the last 3-4 years, the vast majority of the Buildroot code
 Thomas>      base has been rewritten, and many of the people having worked on
 Thomas>      that are still around today.

It's imho still too many people to be realistic:

git shortlog -s --since='3 years' | wc -l
230


 Thomas> What other build systems are doing:

 Thomas>  * Yocto/OpenEmbeded: bitbake is under GPLv2, the rest (package
 Thomas>    recipes) is under MIT.

 Thomas>  * PTXdist is under GPLv2, but has a small license clarification "Note:
 Thomas>    PTXdist is a build system which generates a distribution for
 Thomas>    embedded systems. This license does only cover the build system
 Thomas>    itself and doesn't affect the license of managed software in any
 Thomas>    way, even if it might be distributed together with the build
 Thomas>    system." I believe it doesn't really clarify completely how the GPL
 Thomas>    applies to a build system.

 Thomas>  * OpenBricks is under GPLv2.

 Thomas>  * OpenWRT is under GPLv2, since it is originally a fork of Buildroot.

 Thomas>  * LTIB is under GPLv2.

So they are basically all in the same boat as us.

-- 
Bye, Peter Korsgaard

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-09-16 21:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-08 13:15 [Buildroot] [PATCH 0/3] Support for out-of-tree Buildroot customization Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-08 13:15 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 1/3] Makefile: factorize *config dependencies Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-11  2:06   ` rjbarnet at rockwellcollins.com
2013-09-11 17:39   ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-08 13:15 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 2/3] Add support for BR2_EXTERNAL Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-11  2:03   ` rjbarnet at rockwellcollins.com
2013-09-11 17:03     ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-11 17:12       ` Ryan Barnett
2013-09-12 21:05     ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-12 21:30       ` Ryan Barnett
2013-09-12 21:41         ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-12 21:51           ` Ryan Barnett
2013-09-12 21:57             ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-12 22:11               ` Ryan Barnett
2013-09-13 20:56                 ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-14  5:29                   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-11  2:07   ` rjbarnet at rockwellcollins.com
2013-09-12 21:04   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-13  3:48     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-13  6:43       ` Tzu-Jung Lee
2013-09-13  7:10         ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-13  7:47           ` Tzu-Jung Lee
     [not found]   ` <CAC2S8kiHUwNFprvvYd85UEGjDJhEX0Jgtb4e7Pd1vwwFGF7m_w@mail.gmail.com>
2013-09-12 21:53     ` [Buildroot] Fwd: " Ryan Barnett
2013-09-08 13:15 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 3/3] docs/manual: add explanations about BR2_EXTERNAL Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-11  2:09   ` rjbarnet at rockwellcollins.com
2013-09-12 21:46   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-13  6:53     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-11  1:32 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 0/3] Support for out-of-tree Buildroot customization rjbarnet at rockwellcollins.com
2013-09-11  7:17   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-11 15:55     ` Ryan Barnett
2013-09-11 17:27       ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-12  7:54         ` Thomas De Schampheleire
2013-09-12 18:21           ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-12 18:25             ` ANDY KENNEDY
2013-09-12 18:33               ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-12 18:44                 ` ANDY KENNEDY
2013-09-12 22:04                 ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-12 22:12                   ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-13 21:50                     ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-14 22:16                       ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-16 15:43                         ` ANDY KENNEDY
2013-09-16 17:30                           ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-16 18:26                             ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-16 18:58                               ` ANDY KENNEDY
2013-09-16 16:21                         ` [Buildroot] Is GPLv2 the right license for Buildroot? Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-16 17:08                           ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-16 17:45                             ` ANDY KENNEDY
2013-09-16 18:01                               ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-16 18:16                                 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-16 21:17                                 ` Peter Korsgaard
2013-09-18  1:50                                 ` Jason Rennie
2013-09-18  7:22                                   ` Peter Korsgaard
2013-09-18 22:09                                   ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-19  0:25                                     ` Jason Rennie
2013-09-19 17:54                                       ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-16 17:58                             ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-16 18:15                               ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-16 18:24                                 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-16 18:56                                   ` ANDY KENNEDY
2013-09-16 20:04                                   ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-17  4:17                                     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-16 19:50                             ` Grant Edwards
2013-09-16 20:15                               ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-18  1:52                               ` Jason Rennie
2013-09-16 19:53                             ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-16 21:13                             ` Peter Korsgaard
2013-09-16 21:12                           ` Peter Korsgaard [this message]
2013-09-17  4:44                             ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-17 14:53                               ` Grant Edwards
2013-09-17 15:17                                 ` Jeremy Rosen
2013-09-17 15:22                                   ` Grant Edwards
2013-09-17 15:29                                 ` Peter Korsgaard
2013-09-16 18:56                         ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 0/3] Support for out-of-tree Buildroot customization Arnout Vandecappelle
2013-09-12 22:07                 ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-12 22:28                   ` ANDY KENNEDY
2013-09-12 22:47                     ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-15 13:18                       ` Thomas De Schampheleire
2013-09-12 21:51             ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-13  7:35             ` Thomas De Schampheleire
2013-09-13 15:55               ` Ryan Barnett
2013-09-12 21:50           ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-12 18:18         ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-09-12 22:24           ` Yann E. MORIN
2013-09-11  5:00 ` Baruch Siach

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