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From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
To: Ashok Raj <ashok.raj@oss.qualcomm.com>
Cc: Vladimir Murzin <vladimir.murzin@arm.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, catalin.marinas@arm.com,
	will@kernel.org, mark.rutland@arm.com, lpieralisi@kernel.org,
	ruanjinjie@huawei.com, liaochang1@huawei.com,
	Ashok Raj <ashoraj@qti.qualcomm.com>,
	Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org>,
	Jonathan Cameron <jonathan.cameron@oss.qualcomm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/38] arm64: Add support for FEAT_NMI
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2026 09:42:36 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86v76nxywj.wl-maz@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <at-pIUZFm60hiVyQ@hu-ashoraj-lv.qualcomm.com>

On Mon, 26 Oct 2026 19:25:21 +0000,
Ashok Raj <ashok.raj@oss.qualcomm.com> wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2026 at 09:20:16PM -0700, Ashok Raj wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2026 at 11:20:24AM +0100, Vladimir Murzin wrote:
> > 
> > > FEAT_NMI provides an architected mechanism for supporting non-maskable
> > > interrupts (NMIs) and less-masked interrupts (LMIs).
> > > 
> > > Since we already support pseudo-NMIs via priority masking, introducing
> > > another flavour of NMI on top of the existing infrastructure could
> > > easily become messy, making the code harder to follow and reason
> > > about.
> > > 
> > > To avoid that, this series first makes room for the new NMI "tenant"
> > > by restructuring the existing exception masking logic (patches 01/38 -
> > > 15/38)
> > 
> > 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I am working on arm64 HEST/GHES Type-4 (NMI) support using FEAT_NMI
> > and GIC NMI support.
> > 
> FYI: I have submitted a code-first proposal for the Type-4 HEST/GHES
> changes.
> 
> I have some internal things to iron out to submit directly, thanks to
> Jonathan for helping out in the review and upload the document.
> 
> 
> https://github.com/tianocore/edk2/issues/13392
> 
> I have patches to work with this on top of the latest posted FEAT_NMI
> series all tested on Qemu SBSA ref. Will post them in a bit.
> 
> Please help with the review. 

I strongly oppose this sort of hacks.

Priorities (and by extension NMIs) only make sense when in the context
of the full set of priorities that the operating system uses. The fact
that Linux doesn't make much use of priorities should not result in
the firmware table becoming prescriptive.

The piece of SW that deals with the interrupt source should have
enough information to decide whether it is worth assigning a higher
priority to that interrupt, and there is no extra information to
convey. If the firmware table doesn't describe in enough detail what that
interrupt is for, then by any mean add that.

But mandating that the OS messes up its own priority scheme for
$ARBITRARY_REASONS is not an acceptable outcome.

Thanks,

	M.

-- 
Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.


  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-27  9:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-14 10:20 [PATCH 00/38] arm64: Add support for FEAT_NMI Vladimir Murzin
2026-09-14 10:20 ` [PATCH 01/38] arm64: irqflags: Introduce arm64-specific irqflags type Vladimir Murzin
2026-09-14 10:20 ` [PATCH 02/38] arm64: irqflags: save and use both DAIF and PMR Vladimir Murzin
2026-09-14 10:20 ` [PATCH 03/38] arm64: interrupts: Add common exception state helpers Vladimir Murzin
2026-09-17  8:58   ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-09-17  9:10   ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-09-21 14:10     ` Vladimir Murzin
2026-09-21 23:13       ` Ashok Raj
2026-09-14 10:20 ` [PATCH 04/38] arm64: process: Lift check for exception state to generic infrastructure Vladimir Murzin
2026-09-14 10:20 ` [PATCH 05/38] arm64: entry: Introduce entry specific exception masking helpers Vladimir Murzin
2026-09-17  9:53   ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-09-21 14:15     ` Vladimir Murzin
2026-09-14 10:20 ` [PATCH 06/38] arm64: entry: replace DAIF helpers with entry helpers Vladimir Murzin
     [not found]   ` <15bc779f-e6f5-4c2a-a629-cb020f12a41a@huawei.com>
2026-09-21 14:01     ` Vladimir Murzin
2026-09-14 10:20 ` [PATCH 07/38] arm64: interrupts: Introduce exception masking save/restore helpers Vladimir Murzin
2026-09-14 10:20 ` [PATCH 08/38] arm64: interrupts: introduce a helper for GIC priority initialization Vladimir Murzin
2026-09-14 10:20 ` [PATCH 09/38] arm64: replace local_daif helpers Vladimir Murzin
2026-09-17  8:14   ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-09-21 14:07     ` Vladimir Murzin
2026-09-14 10:20 ` [PATCH 10/38] arm64: cpuidle: use new helpers to bypass interrupt priority masking Vladimir Murzin
2026-09-14 10:20 ` [PATCH 11/38] arm64: remove daifflags.h Vladimir Murzin
2026-09-14 10:20 ` [PATCH 12/38] arm64: gicv3: remove GIC_PRIO_PSR_I_SET Vladimir Murzin
2026-09-14 10:20 ` [PATCH 13/38] arm64: cpufeature: Remove system_has_prio_mask_debugging() Vladimir Murzin
2026-09-14 10:20 ` [PATCH 14/38] arm64: irqflags: Switch to CONFIG_DEBUG_IRQFLAGS Vladimir Murzin
2026-09-14 10:20 ` [PATCH 15/38] arm64: Kconfig: Remove CONFIG_ARM64_DEBUG_PRIORITY_MASKING Vladimir Murzin
2026-09-14 10:20 ` [PATCH 16/38] efi/runtime-wrappers: Permit architectures to override IRQ flags checks Vladimir Murzin
2026-09-14 10:20 ` [PATCH 17/38] arm64/efi: Implement override for " Vladimir Murzin
2026-09-14 10:20 ` [PATCH 18/38] arm64: booting: Document boot requirements for FEAT_NMI Vladimir Murzin
2026-09-14 10:20 ` [PATCH 19/38] arm64: sysreg: Add definitions for immediate versions of MSR ALLINT Vladimir Murzin
2026-09-14 10:20 ` [PATCH 20/38] arm64: probes: Reject stepping over ALLINT Vladimir Murzin
2026-09-16  8:53   ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-09-14 10:20 ` [PATCH 21/38] arm64: ptrace: Add PSR_ALLINT_BIT Vladimir Murzin
2026-09-14 10:20 ` [PATCH 22/38] arm64: idreg: Add an override for FEAT_NMI Vladimir Murzin
2026-09-14 10:20 ` [PATCH 23/38] arm64: cpufeature: Detect PE support " Vladimir Murzin
2026-09-16  9:22   ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-09-21 13:53     ` Vladimir Murzin
2026-09-14 10:20 ` [PATCH 24/38] arm64: nmi: Manage masking for superpriority interrupts Vladimir Murzin
2026-09-17 11:41   ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-09-21 14:23     ` Vladimir Murzin
2026-09-14 10:20 ` [PATCH 25/38] arm64: irq: Report FEAT_NMI masking local IRQs Vladimir Murzin
2026-09-14 10:20 ` [PATCH 26/38] arm64: nmi: Add handling of superpriority interrupts as NMIs Vladimir Murzin
2026-09-17 11:37   ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-09-21 14:16     ` Vladimir Murzin
2026-09-14 10:20 ` [PATCH 27/38] arm64: suspend: Always initialise PSTATE.ALLINT Vladimir Murzin
2026-09-14 10:20 ` [PATCH 28/38] arm64/efi: Add ALLINT to IRQ flags checks Vladimir Murzin
2026-09-14 10:20 ` [PATCH 29/38] arm64: kprobes: Disable NMIs Vladimir Murzin
2026-09-14 10:20 ` [PATCH 30/38] arm64: smp: Abstract SGI and LPI operations Vladimir Murzin
2026-09-16  9:01   ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-09-21 13:44     ` Vladimir Murzin
2026-09-14 10:20 ` [PATCH 31/38] arm64: smp: Fall back to IRQ when IPI NMI request fails Vladimir Murzin
2026-09-14 10:20 ` [PATCH 32/38] arm64: nmi: Add Kconfig for NMI Vladimir Murzin
2026-09-16  9:06   ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-09-21 13:47     ` Vladimir Murzin
2026-09-14 10:20 ` [PATCH 33/38] irqchip/gic-v3: Rename nmi to pseudo_nmi Vladimir Murzin
2026-09-14 10:20 ` [PATCH 34/38] irqchip/gic-v3: Implement FEAT_GICv3_NMI support Vladimir Murzin
2026-09-14 10:20 ` [PATCH 35/38] arm64: smp: Add NMI support for LPI-backed IPIs Vladimir Murzin
2026-09-14 10:21 ` [PATCH 36/38] genirq: Trust local irqchip when considering IRQ for NMI Vladimir Murzin
2026-09-17 12:06   ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-09-14 10:21 ` [PATCH 37/38] genirq: Do not call add_interrupt_randomness() in NMI context Vladimir Murzin
2026-09-17 11:55   ` Jinjie Ruan
2026-09-14 10:21 ` [PATCH 38/38] irqchip/gic-v5: Add NMI support Vladimir Murzin
2026-10-24  4:20 ` [PATCH 00/38] arm64: Add support for FEAT_NMI Ashok Raj
2026-10-26 19:25   ` Ashok Raj
2026-10-27  9:42     ` Marc Zyngier [this message]
2026-10-27 11:56   ` Marc Zyngier
2026-10-27  6:39 ` Jinjie Ruan

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