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From: Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org>
To: "G. Branden Robinson" <g.branden.robinson@gmail.com>
Cc: Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>, Joseph Myers <josmyers@redhat.com>,
	 linux-man@vger.kernel.org, Keith Bostic <keith@bostic.com>,
	 Mark Harris <mark.hsj@gmail.com>,
	Nevin Liber <nevin@cplusplusguy.com>,
	 JeanHeyd Meneide <phdofthehouse@gmail.com>,
	Christopher Bazley <chris.bazley.wg14@gmail.com>,
	 "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	Iker Pedrosa <ipedrosa@redhat.com>,
	 "Evgeny Grin (Karlson2k)" <k2k@drgrin.dev>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	bug-gnulib@gnu.org,  libc-alpha@sourceware.org,
	Douglas McIlroy <douglas.mcilroy@dartmouth.edu>
Subject: Re: on the irresponsibility of pursuing C language reform
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2026 22:42:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <am5Y5g4CltGIBwlE@devuan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260801201849.hzg6ufqxmwi2efzz@illithid>

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Hi Branden,

> Date: 2026-08-01 15:18:49-0500
> From: "G. Branden Robinson" <g.branden.robinson@gmail.com>
>
> Hi Sam & Alex,
> 
> Just a quick note on conflicts on interest since I'm the one who dragged
> that label into the conversation--though the concept was implicitly
> present already.
> 
> At 2026-08-01T15:38:42+0100, Sam James wrote:
> > Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org> writes:
> > > FWIW, regarding the possible conflict of interest that was mentioned
> > > yesterday, I'll say that I don't get paid for my contributions to
> > > ISO C as a member of WG14.  There's no benefit to me other than
> > > public recognition.  I'll also disclose the exact quantity that I've
> > > been paid for maintaining the Linux man-pages project:
> > 
> > You can have a conflict of interest in responsibliity without money
> > being involved. In fact, I have never believed you were influenced by
> > money,
> 
> Sam makes a good point, and Alex, I think you overlooked one.
> 
> Disclosure of the quantity of your compensation as Linux man-pages
> maintainer is of less importance than _who_ sponsored your work.

That's public, and has been since the begining.  It's published in the
git repository:

	$ cat SPONSORS 
	Google               <https://opensource.google/>
	Hudson River Trading <https://www.hudsonrivertrading.com/>
	Meta                 <https://www.meta.com/>

Here's the history of that file:

	$ git log --pretty=reference -p -- SPONSORS 
	6d9ae347cfac (SPONSORS: Two sponsors didn't renew this year, 2025-10-29)

	diff --git a/SPONSORS b/SPONSORS
	index 440fcca8b9ed..4b2f2e9011b8 100644
	--- a/SPONSORS
	+++ b/SPONSORS
	@@ -1,5 +1,3 @@
	-Adfinis              <https://adfinis.com/>
	 Google               <https://opensource.google/>
	 Hudson River Trading <https://www.hudsonrivertrading.com/>
	 Meta                 <https://www.meta.com/>
	-Red Hat              <https://www.redhat.com/>
	7ea35690e060 (SPONSORS: Publish the sponsors of this project, 2025-01-15)

	diff --git a/SPONSORS b/SPONSORS
	new file mode 100644
	index 000000000000..440fcca8b9ed
	--- /dev/null
	+++ b/SPONSORS
	@@ -0,0 +1,5 @@
	+Adfinis              <https://adfinis.com/>
	+Google               <https://opensource.google/>
	+Hudson River Trading <https://www.hudsonrivertrading.com/>
	+Meta                 <https://www.meta.com/>
	+Red Hat              <https://www.redhat.com/>


Cheers,
Alex

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  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-01 20:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-31 21:18 [PATCH 0/2] alx-0097r1 - <memory.h>, the legitimate header for memcpy(3) et al Alejandro Colomar
2026-07-31 21:18 ` [PATCH 1/2] man/man3/{mem,strn}*(): SYNOPSIS, STANDARDS: Document these as provided by <memory.h> Alejandro Colomar
2026-07-31 21:23   ` Joseph Myers
2026-07-31 21:28     ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-07-31 21:54       ` Sam James
2026-07-31 22:18         ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-08-01  0:12           ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-08-01 14:43           ` Sam James
2026-07-31 21:51     ` on the irresponsibility of pursuing C language reform (was: [PATCH 1/2] man/man3/{mem,strn}*(): SYNOPSIS, STANDARDS: Document these as provided by <memory.h>) G. Branden Robinson
2026-07-31 21:59       ` on the irresponsibility of pursuing C language reform Sam James
2026-07-31 22:24         ` G. Branden Robinson
2026-07-31 23:19           ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-08-01 14:52           ` Sam James
2026-08-01 12:01         ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-08-01 12:04           ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-08-01 14:38           ` Sam James
2026-08-01 15:15             ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-08-01 16:10               ` Sam James
2026-08-01 17:09                 ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-08-01 21:34                   ` G. Branden Robinson
2026-08-01 22:22                     ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-08-01 22:26                       ` Alejandro Colomar
     [not found]                   ` <CAETFuj2OwoyK9J85r2f0RoXbHbXKA4gQJ=JZ-7=QoqGcMwk0+Q@mail.gmail.com>
2026-08-01 22:44                     ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-08-01 23:24                       ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-08-01 23:53                         ` proposed revision to memory.h(3head) (was: on the irresponsibility of pursuing C language reform) G. Branden Robinson
2026-08-02  0:27                           ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-08-02  1:03                             ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-08-02 12:52                         ` on the irresponsibility of pursuing C language reform Steve Summit
2026-08-02 13:17                           ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-08-02 13:45                             ` Steve Summit
2026-08-02 14:11                               ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-08-02 19:28                                 ` Paul Eggert
2026-08-02 20:31                                   ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-08-01 20:18             ` G. Branden Robinson
2026-08-01 20:42               ` Alejandro Colomar [this message]
2026-08-01 20:45                 ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-08-01 20:52                 ` G. Branden Robinson
2026-08-01 21:12                   ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-07-31 22:10       ` on the irresponsibility of pursuing C language reform (was: [PATCH 1/2] man/man3/{mem,strn}*(): SYNOPSIS, STANDARDS: Document these as provided by <memory.h>) Joseph Myers
2026-07-31 22:21         ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-07-31 22:28           ` [PATCH 1/2] man/man3/{mem,strn}*(): SYNOPSIS, STANDARDS: Document these as provided by <memory.h> G. Branden Robinson
2026-07-31 22:42           ` on the irresponsibility of pursuing C language reform (was: [PATCH 1/2] man/man3/{mem,strn}*(): SYNOPSIS, STANDARDS: Document these as provided by <memory.h>) Joseph Myers
2026-07-31 22:52             ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-07-31 23:11               ` Joseph Myers
2026-07-31 23:32                 ` G. Branden Robinson
2026-08-01 12:39                   ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-08-01 14:26                   ` Christopher Bazley
2026-08-01 15:29                     ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-07-31 23:45                 ` on the irresponsibility of pursuing C language reform (was: " Alejandro Colomar
2026-08-01 12:39                   ` Douglas McIlroy
2026-08-01 19:54                     ` G. Branden Robinson
2026-08-01 20:35                       ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-07-31 23:08             ` [PATCH 1/2] man/man3/{mem,strn}*(): SYNOPSIS, STANDARDS: Document these as provided by <memory.h> G. Branden Robinson
2026-07-31 23:28               ` Joseph Myers
2026-07-31 23:57                 ` G. Branden Robinson
2026-08-01  0:06                   ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-07-31 22:05     ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-07-31 22:16       ` Joseph Myers
2026-07-31 22:33         ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-07-31 23:48     ` [PATCH 1/2] man/man3/{mem, strn}*(): " Collin Funk
2026-07-31 23:52       ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-08-01  0:01         ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-07-31 21:19 ` [PATCH 2/2] man/man*/{string.3,memory.h.3head}: Move functions to a new page memory.h(3head) Alejandro Colomar
2026-07-31 21:20 ` [PATCH 0/2] alx-0097r1 - <memory.h>, the legitimate header for memcpy(3) et al Alejandro Colomar
2026-08-01  0:25 ` [PATCH v2] man/man3/mem*(): SYNOPSIS: Document non-standard mem*() functions as provided by <memory.h> Alejandro Colomar
2026-08-01 22:22   ` Bruno Haible
2026-08-01 22:38     ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-08-01 22:55       ` Bruno Haible
2026-08-01 23:10         ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-08-01 23:26           ` Collin Funk
2026-08-01 23:34             ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-08-01 23:29           ` Paul Eggert
2026-08-01 23:36             ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-08-02  0:08               ` the Linux man-pages as an educational tool (was: [PATCH v2] man/man3/mem*(): SYNOPSIS: Document non-standard mem*() functions as provided by <memory.h>) G. Branden Robinson
2026-08-02  0:45                 ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-08-02  1:04                   ` the Linux man-pages as an educational tool Collin Funk
2026-08-02  1:15                     ` G. Branden Robinson
2026-08-02  1:15                     ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-08-02  1:49                       ` Collin Funk
2026-08-02 11:29                         ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-08-02 11:47                           ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-08-02 12:04                       ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-08-02 21:23                       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2026-08-02 21:34                         ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-08-02 23:08                           ` Arsen Arsenović

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