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From: Doug Ledford <dledford@redhat.com>
To: Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.name>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@steeleye.com>,
	andersen@codepoet.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] SCSI hotplug support
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 20:22:52 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20021015002252.GE1274@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200210150019.53689.oliver@neukum.name>

On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 12:19:53AM +0200, Oliver Neukum wrote:
> Am Montag, 14. Oktober 2002 23:07 schrieb James Bottomley:
> > andersen@codepoet.org said:
> > > If the user space interface were perfectly adequate, I would not have
> > > written this patch.  User space does not have sufficient information
> > > to know _which_ devices must to be added or removed. The best we can
> > > do from user space is a full rescan of _all_ scsi host adaptors (http:/
> > > /www.garloff.de/kurt/linux/rescan-scsi-bus.sh)  using something like
> >
> > The API you expose has identical inputs to the user space one.
> >
> > Therefore it seems to me that your spb2 driver must already know the values
> > to fill in to use the API.  So what's wrong with triggering a hotplug event
> > from this driver that causes the add/remove single device to be done from
> > user level?
> 
> It's harder than doing it the simple way. User space really can do nothing but
> do the call.

Not true, see my last email.  User space can do a *lot* more than just 
make the call to add the device, and as a matter of fact it already does.

> Plus, you can use such a kernel API to really free the device's
> memory, because you cannot know when user space, or indeed if, has
> freed the device.

Not true at all.  Define a revoke/slave_detach entry point to your driver 
and you get called when the device is removed so that you can free up any 
of your resources.

> Doing it in kernel is the only sane thing.

Read source first, post sanity comments later.

-- 
  Doug Ledford <dledford@redhat.com>     919-754-3700 x44233
         Red Hat, Inc. 
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  reply	other threads:[~2002-10-15  0:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-10-14  5:40 [PATCH] SCSI hotplug support Erik Andersen
2002-10-14  7:06 ` Matthew Dharm
2002-10-14  7:12   ` Erik Andersen
2002-10-14 15:47     ` Kurt Garloff
2002-10-14 16:19       ` Mike Anderson
2002-10-14 20:41         ` Erik Andersen
2002-10-14 22:10           ` Mike Anderson
2002-10-14 20:46       ` Erik Andersen
2002-10-14 15:57 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-14 17:22   ` Mike Anderson
2002-10-14 17:30   ` Matthew Dharm
2002-10-14 17:39     ` James Bottomley
2002-10-14 19:11       ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-10-15  0:42       ` Kurt Garloff
2002-10-14 20:37   ` Erik Andersen
2002-10-14 21:07     ` James Bottomley
2002-10-14 21:54       ` Erik Andersen
2002-10-14 22:25         ` Doug Ledford
2002-10-15  5:25           ` Erik Andersen
2002-10-15 15:33             ` Doug Ledford
2002-10-15 18:18               ` Erik Andersen
2002-10-15 18:22             ` Doug Ledford
2002-10-15 18:45               ` Erik Andersen
2002-10-15 19:13                 ` Doug Ledford
2002-10-15 19:32                   ` Erik Andersen
2002-10-15 19:45                     ` James Bottomley
2002-10-15 19:50                     ` Scott Merritt
2002-10-15 19:55                     ` Doug Ledford
2002-10-15 22:07                       ` Erik Andersen
2002-10-16  2:40                         ` Doug Ledford
2002-10-18 11:28                           ` Erik Andersen
2002-10-15 21:43                 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-10-15 22:07                   ` Erik Andersen
2002-10-14 22:19       ` Oliver Neukum
2002-10-15  0:22         ` Doug Ledford [this message]
2002-10-15  7:53           ` Oliver Neukum
2002-10-15 14:35             ` Doug Ledford
2002-10-15 15:19               ` Oliver Neukum
2002-10-15 15:40                 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-15 17:47               ` Erik Andersen
2002-10-15 18:34                 ` Doug Ledford
2002-10-15 18:22               ` Scott Merritt

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