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From: Robert Millan <rmh@aybabtu.com>
To: The development of GRUB 2 <grub-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: TPM support status ?
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:17:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090820161739.GC10903@thorin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090819195310.GE3561@mammon.mene.za.net>

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 09:53:10PM +0200, Michael Gorven wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 04:01:39PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote:
>> Can you give a reason not to provide the owner with any of:
>>
>>  - A printed copy of the private key corresponding to the chip he paid for.
>
> Not really, although not having any trace of the private key reduces the  
> chance of it being stolen. I find this point kind of moot though because  
> the chip can be reset completely -- you don't need the private key.

Of course I do.  How else am I supposed to tell this remote website that I am
running Internet Exploiter without actually running it?

It demands a signature that can only be produced with the private key that came
preinstalled in the TPM.  Resetting the TPM won't help at all.

See where this leads to?

-- 
Robert Millan

  The DRM opt-in fallacy: "Your data belongs to us. We will decide when (and
  how) you may access your data; but nobody's threatening your freedom: we
  still allow you to remove your data and not access it at all."



  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-08-20 16:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-19 11:00 TPM support status ? Emmanuel Fleury
2009-08-19 11:51 ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-19 12:25   ` Michael Gorven
2009-08-19 12:42     ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-19 13:24       ` Michael Gorven
2009-08-19 13:48         ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-19 19:49           ` Michael Gorven
2009-08-19 20:13             ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-19 14:01         ` Robert Millan
2009-08-19 19:53           ` Michael Gorven
2009-08-19 20:15             ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-20 16:17             ` Robert Millan [this message]
2009-08-19 14:10         ` Robert Millan
2009-08-19 15:44         ` Isaac Dupree
2009-08-19 17:20           ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-19 17:25           ` Duboucher Thomas
2009-08-19 17:39             ` Isaac Dupree
2009-08-19 18:01             ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-19 18:36               ` Duboucher Thomas
2009-08-19 18:48                 ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-19 20:13                   ` Michael Gorven
2009-08-19 20:25                     ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-20  7:38                       ` Michael Gorven
2009-08-20 10:15                         ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-20 10:22                           ` Michael Gorven
2009-08-20 10:29                             ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-20 16:36                               ` Duboucher Thomas
2009-08-19 20:03               ` Michael Gorven
2009-08-19 20:18                 ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-19 14:42     ` Robert Millan
2009-08-19 20:16       ` Michael Gorven
2009-08-19 20:27         ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-19 20:33           ` Michael Gorven
2009-08-19 20:34             ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-19 20:45           ` Duboucher Thomas
2009-08-20 16:09           ` Robert Millan
2009-08-20 16:17             ` Michael Gorven
2009-08-20 16:13           ` Robert Millan
2009-08-19 14:34 ` Robert Millan
2009-08-19 16:33 ` Duboucher Thomas
2009-08-19 17:04   ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-19 18:13     ` Duboucher Thomas
2009-08-19 18:37       ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-19 19:16         ` Duboucher Thomas
2009-08-19 19:28           ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-19 20:13             ` Duboucher Thomas
2009-08-19 20:22               ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-19 20:37                 ` Duboucher Thomas
2009-08-19 20:42                   ` Michal Suchanek
2009-08-19 20:57                     ` Duboucher Thomas
2009-08-19 21:00                       ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-19 21:07                         ` Duboucher Thomas
2009-08-19 23:39                         ` Michal Suchanek
2009-08-19 20:44                   ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-20  7:40                     ` Michael Gorven
2009-08-20 10:19                       ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-19 19:21         ` Michal Suchanek
2009-08-20  7:41           ` Michael Gorven
2009-08-20  7:49             ` Michal Suchanek
2009-08-20  7:52               ` Michael Gorven
2009-08-20  7:59                 ` Michal Suchanek
2009-08-20  8:07                   ` Michael Gorven
2009-08-20  8:20                     ` Michal Suchanek
2009-08-20  8:33                       ` Michael Gorven
2009-08-20 10:21                         ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-20 10:58                         ` Michal Suchanek
2009-08-20 11:15                           ` Michael Gorven
2009-08-20 11:24                             ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-20 11:38                               ` Michal Suchanek
2009-08-20 13:06                                 ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-20 16:31                           ` Duboucher Thomas
2009-08-20 17:47                             ` about smartcards (Re: TPM support status ?) Robert Millan
2009-08-20 18:35                               ` decoder
2009-08-20 19:48                                 ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-20 20:02                                 ` Robert Millan
2009-08-20 20:11                                   ` decoder
2009-08-20 20:24                                     ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-20 20:30                                     ` Robert Millan
2009-08-20 20:16                             ` TPM support status ? Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-20 17:50                           ` Duboucher Thomas
2009-08-21 11:42                             ` Michal Suchanek
2009-08-20 16:48             ` Robert Millan
2009-08-20 16:20   ` Robert Millan

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