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From: Duboucher Thomas <thomas@duboucher.eu>
To: The development of GRUB 2 <grub-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: TPM support status ?
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:45:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A8C644D.9070000@duboucher.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d7ead6de0908191327k5ccb757fl7caedb05ac38d094@mail.gmail.com>

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Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko a écrit :
> How many record labels will not jump on occasion of an efficient DRM?

In France, they still believe it takes three days for a .mp3 to travel
from Japan to France ...

> How many banks will resist the temptation to say "we're more secure
> because of TPM"

When it will be more openly used, most of them will with reas

>>> Since we're going to say no anyway, there's no reason to do it later.  The
>>> longer we wait the stronger they'll be, and the more difficult for us to
>>> reject their unreasonable demands.
>> Because there are valid use cases that aren't about restricting the owner's
>> freedom.
> Yes but the cost is too high. And few people who really need high
> security can afford coreboot motherboard.
>>> Right, but we're defending the rights of the legitimate owner of that
>>> device,
>>> which doesn't have to be the same as the end user (e.g. kiosk).
>> I don't see how you're defending the owner's rights. If the owner wants to
>> lock down the device then they should be able to.
> kiosks are physically protected
> 

Another use case can be associating a MTM and a TPM (data exchange
secured between two exclusive devices, i.e. a laptop and a cellphone).

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-08-19 20:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-19 11:00 TPM support status ? Emmanuel Fleury
2009-08-19 11:51 ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-19 12:25   ` Michael Gorven
2009-08-19 12:42     ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-19 13:24       ` Michael Gorven
2009-08-19 13:48         ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-19 19:49           ` Michael Gorven
2009-08-19 20:13             ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-19 14:01         ` Robert Millan
2009-08-19 19:53           ` Michael Gorven
2009-08-19 20:15             ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-20 16:17             ` Robert Millan
2009-08-19 14:10         ` Robert Millan
2009-08-19 15:44         ` Isaac Dupree
2009-08-19 17:20           ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-19 17:25           ` Duboucher Thomas
2009-08-19 17:39             ` Isaac Dupree
2009-08-19 18:01             ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-19 18:36               ` Duboucher Thomas
2009-08-19 18:48                 ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-19 20:13                   ` Michael Gorven
2009-08-19 20:25                     ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-20  7:38                       ` Michael Gorven
2009-08-20 10:15                         ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-20 10:22                           ` Michael Gorven
2009-08-20 10:29                             ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-20 16:36                               ` Duboucher Thomas
2009-08-19 20:03               ` Michael Gorven
2009-08-19 20:18                 ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-19 14:42     ` Robert Millan
2009-08-19 20:16       ` Michael Gorven
2009-08-19 20:27         ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-19 20:33           ` Michael Gorven
2009-08-19 20:34             ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-19 20:45           ` Duboucher Thomas [this message]
2009-08-20 16:09           ` Robert Millan
2009-08-20 16:17             ` Michael Gorven
2009-08-20 16:13           ` Robert Millan
2009-08-19 14:34 ` Robert Millan
2009-08-19 16:33 ` Duboucher Thomas
2009-08-19 17:04   ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-19 18:13     ` Duboucher Thomas
2009-08-19 18:37       ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-19 19:16         ` Duboucher Thomas
2009-08-19 19:28           ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-19 20:13             ` Duboucher Thomas
2009-08-19 20:22               ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-19 20:37                 ` Duboucher Thomas
2009-08-19 20:42                   ` Michal Suchanek
2009-08-19 20:57                     ` Duboucher Thomas
2009-08-19 21:00                       ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-19 21:07                         ` Duboucher Thomas
2009-08-19 23:39                         ` Michal Suchanek
2009-08-19 20:44                   ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-20  7:40                     ` Michael Gorven
2009-08-20 10:19                       ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-19 19:21         ` Michal Suchanek
2009-08-20  7:41           ` Michael Gorven
2009-08-20  7:49             ` Michal Suchanek
2009-08-20  7:52               ` Michael Gorven
2009-08-20  7:59                 ` Michal Suchanek
2009-08-20  8:07                   ` Michael Gorven
2009-08-20  8:20                     ` Michal Suchanek
2009-08-20  8:33                       ` Michael Gorven
2009-08-20 10:21                         ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-20 10:58                         ` Michal Suchanek
2009-08-20 11:15                           ` Michael Gorven
2009-08-20 11:24                             ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-20 11:38                               ` Michal Suchanek
2009-08-20 13:06                                 ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-20 16:31                           ` Duboucher Thomas
2009-08-20 17:47                             ` about smartcards (Re: TPM support status ?) Robert Millan
2009-08-20 18:35                               ` decoder
2009-08-20 19:48                                 ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-20 20:02                                 ` Robert Millan
2009-08-20 20:11                                   ` decoder
2009-08-20 20:24                                     ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-20 20:30                                     ` Robert Millan
2009-08-20 20:16                             ` TPM support status ? Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-20 17:50                           ` Duboucher Thomas
2009-08-21 11:42                             ` Michal Suchanek
2009-08-20 16:48             ` Robert Millan
2009-08-20 16:20   ` Robert Millan

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