From: decoder <decoder@own-hero.net>
To: The development of GRUB 2 <grub-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: about smartcards (Re: TPM support status ?)
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:35:34 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A8D9776.9030809@own-hero.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090820174705.GA18371@thorin>
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Robert Millan wrote:
> SmartCards are a single-purpose device. Users don't install software in them,
>
You don't install software in a TPM module either.
> and they don't have any user interface (other than a button or so) that could
> be used to implement DRM
This is wrong. Smartcards of course have a an interface to interact with
them. It is even a not so small subset of what TPM provides.
And yes, you could use a Smartcard to do DRM.
> , so it's not an issue if their owners can't modify
> their firmware (which could even be in a ROM).
>
The TPM can't modify anything either. A TPM is a _passive_ crypto module.
Best regards,
Chris
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-08-20 18:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-08-19 11:00 TPM support status ? Emmanuel Fleury
2009-08-19 11:51 ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-19 12:25 ` Michael Gorven
2009-08-19 12:42 ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-19 13:24 ` Michael Gorven
2009-08-19 13:48 ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-19 19:49 ` Michael Gorven
2009-08-19 20:13 ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-19 14:01 ` Robert Millan
2009-08-19 19:53 ` Michael Gorven
2009-08-19 20:15 ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-20 16:17 ` Robert Millan
2009-08-19 14:10 ` Robert Millan
2009-08-19 15:44 ` Isaac Dupree
2009-08-19 17:20 ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-19 17:25 ` Duboucher Thomas
2009-08-19 17:39 ` Isaac Dupree
2009-08-19 18:01 ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-19 18:36 ` Duboucher Thomas
2009-08-19 18:48 ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-19 20:13 ` Michael Gorven
2009-08-19 20:25 ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-20 7:38 ` Michael Gorven
2009-08-20 10:15 ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-20 10:22 ` Michael Gorven
2009-08-20 10:29 ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-20 16:36 ` Duboucher Thomas
2009-08-19 20:03 ` Michael Gorven
2009-08-19 20:18 ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-19 14:42 ` Robert Millan
2009-08-19 20:16 ` Michael Gorven
2009-08-19 20:27 ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-19 20:33 ` Michael Gorven
2009-08-19 20:34 ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-19 20:45 ` Duboucher Thomas
2009-08-20 16:09 ` Robert Millan
2009-08-20 16:17 ` Michael Gorven
2009-08-20 16:13 ` Robert Millan
2009-08-19 14:34 ` Robert Millan
2009-08-19 16:33 ` Duboucher Thomas
2009-08-19 17:04 ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-19 18:13 ` Duboucher Thomas
2009-08-19 18:37 ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-19 19:16 ` Duboucher Thomas
2009-08-19 19:28 ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-19 20:13 ` Duboucher Thomas
2009-08-19 20:22 ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-19 20:37 ` Duboucher Thomas
2009-08-19 20:42 ` Michal Suchanek
2009-08-19 20:57 ` Duboucher Thomas
2009-08-19 21:00 ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-19 21:07 ` Duboucher Thomas
2009-08-19 23:39 ` Michal Suchanek
2009-08-19 20:44 ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-20 7:40 ` Michael Gorven
2009-08-20 10:19 ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-19 19:21 ` Michal Suchanek
2009-08-20 7:41 ` Michael Gorven
2009-08-20 7:49 ` Michal Suchanek
2009-08-20 7:52 ` Michael Gorven
2009-08-20 7:59 ` Michal Suchanek
2009-08-20 8:07 ` Michael Gorven
2009-08-20 8:20 ` Michal Suchanek
2009-08-20 8:33 ` Michael Gorven
2009-08-20 10:21 ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-20 10:58 ` Michal Suchanek
2009-08-20 11:15 ` Michael Gorven
2009-08-20 11:24 ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-20 11:38 ` Michal Suchanek
2009-08-20 13:06 ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-20 16:31 ` Duboucher Thomas
2009-08-20 17:47 ` about smartcards (Re: TPM support status ?) Robert Millan
2009-08-20 18:35 ` decoder [this message]
2009-08-20 19:48 ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-20 20:02 ` Robert Millan
2009-08-20 20:11 ` decoder
2009-08-20 20:24 ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-20 20:30 ` Robert Millan
2009-08-20 20:16 ` TPM support status ? Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-08-20 17:50 ` Duboucher Thomas
2009-08-21 11:42 ` Michal Suchanek
2009-08-20 16:48 ` Robert Millan
2009-08-20 16:20 ` Robert Millan
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