From: Stefan Reinauer <stepan@coresystems.de>
To: Jordan Justen <jljusten@gmail.com>
Cc: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>, Coreboot <coreboot@coreboot.org>,
Carl-Daniel Hailfinger <c-d.hailfinger.devel.2006@gmx.net>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [coreboot] [Qemu-devel] Release plan for 0.12.0
Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 00:46:28 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AC7D444.9050007@coresystems.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2a50f7880910031513u713f7d52xc95847e9b248964b@mail.gmail.com>
Jordan Justen wrote:
> I'm not going to take a side on this matter. But, I think what will
> be more important is what is used in the majority of OS's and systems.
> This is why we still put the 16-bit legacy BIOS as the #1 priority
> after ~30 years. But, like I mention, I think there are signs that
> this may shift towards UEFI at some point.
>
Looking at today's OSes, the BIOS "interface" is basically completely
unused except for loading the OS kernel.
For future generations of firmware and computers and virtual machines it
might make sense to optimize with that situation in mind.
The industry we're working in does not see UEFI can cope with the
problems firmware has today, unfortunately. After seeing EFI fail so
badly with the Itanium it would certainly be nice to see if something
can evolve from it in a decade, or two. We're watching excitedly.
All the best,
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-10-03 22:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 163+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-09-29 23:54 Release plan for 0.12.0 Anthony Liguori
2009-09-29 23:54 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 0:20 ` Dustin Kirkland
2009-09-30 0:20 ` [Qemu-devel] " Dustin Kirkland
2009-09-30 2:18 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 2:18 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 2:28 ` [Qemu-devel] " Isaku Yamahata
2009-09-30 2:28 ` Isaku Yamahata
2009-09-30 13:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 13:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 13:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-30 13:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-30 5:17 ` Amit Shah
2009-09-30 5:17 ` [Qemu-devel] " Amit Shah
2009-09-30 13:04 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 13:04 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 13:37 ` Amit Shah
2009-09-30 13:37 ` [Qemu-devel] " Amit Shah
2009-09-30 14:47 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 14:47 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 14:50 ` Amit Shah
2009-09-30 14:50 ` [Qemu-devel] " Amit Shah
2009-09-30 6:41 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2009-09-30 6:41 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-30 13:05 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 13:05 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-01 21:13 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-10-01 21:13 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-10-03 10:04 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-05 12:43 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-10-05 13:52 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-30 13:31 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-09-30 8:53 ` Michael Tokarev
2009-09-30 9:01 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-30 9:31 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-09-30 9:31 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-09-30 13:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 13:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 15:59 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-09-30 15:59 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-09-30 19:25 ` Blue Swirl
2009-09-30 13:30 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-09-30 13:30 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-09-30 14:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 14:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 15:03 ` Fred Leeflang
2009-09-30 15:03 ` [Qemu-devel] " Fred Leeflang
2009-09-30 15:26 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-09-30 15:26 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-09-30 17:03 ` Juan Quintela
2009-09-30 19:28 ` [Qemu-devel] " Gerd Hoffmann
2009-09-30 19:28 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-10-01 1:55 ` Natalia Portillo
2009-10-01 8:07 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-10-01 21:02 ` Jordan Justen
2009-10-02 4:38 ` Natalia Portillo
2009-10-02 5:37 ` Jordan Justen
2009-10-02 22:33 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-10-01 12:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-01 21:10 ` Jordan Justen
2009-10-01 21:23 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-02 0:41 ` Jordan Justen
2009-10-02 13:29 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-02 16:58 ` Jordan Justen
2009-10-02 18:45 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-10-02 18:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-02 21:39 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-10-02 22:28 ` Jordan Justen
2009-10-02 23:05 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-10-03 0:32 ` Jordan Justen
2009-10-03 17:30 ` [coreboot] " Peter Stuge
2009-10-03 21:49 ` Jordan Justen
2009-10-03 21:58 ` Patrick Georgi
2009-10-04 19:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-04 19:39 ` Stefan Reinauer
2009-10-05 13:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-05 13:23 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-10-05 13:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-05 14:43 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-10-04 19:49 ` Patrick Georgi
2009-10-05 13:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-03 22:02 ` Stefan Reinauer
2009-10-03 22:40 ` Jordan Justen
2009-10-03 23:03 ` Stefan Reinauer
2009-10-03 23:52 ` Jordan Justen
2009-10-03 15:08 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-10-03 17:32 ` [coreboot] " Peter Stuge
2009-10-03 17:40 ` ron minnich
2009-10-03 18:16 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-10-03 18:30 ` Peter Stuge
2009-10-03 19:09 ` Kevin O'Connor
2009-10-03 19:09 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-10-03 22:13 ` Jordan Justen
2009-10-03 22:19 ` Patrick Georgi
2009-10-03 23:04 ` Jordan Justen
2009-10-04 19:35 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-04 4:10 ` Natalia Portillo
2009-10-04 11:16 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-10-04 16:06 ` Natalia Portillo
2009-10-05 0:29 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-10-03 22:46 ` Stefan Reinauer [this message]
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2009-10-04 3:55 ` Natalia Portillo
2009-10-05 14:08 ` Lennart Sorensen
2009-10-02 20:57 ` Jordan Justen
2009-10-02 21:37 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-02 22:19 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-10-02 4:55 ` Natalia Portillo
2009-10-01 20:50 ` Stuart Brady
2009-10-02 4:51 ` Natalia Portillo
2009-10-02 19:07 ` Stuart Brady
2009-10-02 20:21 ` Natalia Portillo
2009-10-01 18:45 ` Stefan Weil
2009-10-01 19:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-01 19:18 ` Stefan Weil
2009-10-03 4:28 ` TAKEDA, toshiya
2009-10-03 4:28 ` [Qemu-devel] " TAKEDA, toshiya
2009-10-08 13:55 ` Jens Osterkamp
2009-10-08 14:21 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-08 14:21 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-10-14 13:09 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-10-14 13:09 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-10-14 13:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-14 13:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-14 14:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-14 14:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-14 14:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-14 14:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-14 13:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-14 13:21 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-14 14:17 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-14 14:17 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-10-14 14:24 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-14 14:24 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-14 15:19 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-10-14 15:19 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-10-14 15:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-14 15:50 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-14 21:10 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2009-10-14 21:10 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2009-10-14 22:53 ` Raw vs. tap (was: Re: Re: Release plan for 0.12.0) Anthony Liguori
2009-10-14 22:53 ` Raw vs. tap (was: Re: [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-10-15 6:36 ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-10-15 6:36 ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-10-15 7:56 ` Raw vs. tap (was: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-15 7:56 ` Raw vs. tap (was: Re: [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-15 13:32 ` Raw vs. tap Anthony Liguori
2009-10-15 13:32 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-10-15 15:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-15 15:04 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-15 15:18 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-15 15:18 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-10-15 15:48 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-15 15:48 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-15 18:37 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-15 18:37 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-10-15 22:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-15 22:08 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-18 10:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-18 10:05 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-15 7:51 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: Release plan for 0.12.0 Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-15 7:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-20 6:33 ` Takahiro Hirofuchi
2009-10-20 6:33 ` [Qemu-devel] " Takahiro Hirofuchi
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