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From: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
To: Stefan Reinauer <stepan@coresystems.de>
Cc: Coreboot <coreboot@coreboot.org>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Carl-Daniel Hailfinger <c-d.hailfinger.devel.2006@gmx.net>,
	ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com>,
	Jordan Justen <jljusten@gmail.com>,
	Patrick Georgi <patrick@georgi-clan.de>
Subject: Re: [coreboot] [Qemu-devel] Release plan for 0.12.0
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 08:03:00 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AC9EE84.1010803@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4AC8F9F2.3030508@coresystems.de>

Stefan Reinauer wrote:
> Anthony Liguori wrote:
>   
>> Patrick Georgi wrote:
>>     
>>> With coreboot, seabios and Duet, it should be reasonably simple to
>>> provide a single BIOS image that selects (based on nvram - ie.
>>> configuration) which interface to provide: PCBIOS or UEFI.
>>>   
>>>       
>> That isn't terribly useful for QEMU because it implies that QEMU needs
>> to make the decision about which one to use.  If QEMU was capable of
>> making that decision without user intervention, then we could just
>> select to load PCBIOS or UEFI.
>>     
> Are you guys sure you want to go down that road rather than using an
> UEFI with a CSM?

We'll I've been advocating UEFI + CSM (based on SeaBIOS) so I'm not sure 
what you meant by 'that road'.

> This was attempted for Open Firmware and never happened during its life
> time. I doubt there is any incentive for vendors to ship devices without
> legacy option roms, especially since there is no advantage in doing so.
>   

We'll be stuck with legacy option roms for a long, long time.  But I 
also expect there will be a few devices out there that only provide EFI 
modules.

-- 
Regards,

Anthony Liguori

  reply	other threads:[~2009-10-05 13:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 163+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-29 23:54 Release plan for 0.12.0 Anthony Liguori
2009-09-29 23:54 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30  0:20 ` Dustin Kirkland
2009-09-30  0:20   ` [Qemu-devel] " Dustin Kirkland
2009-09-30  2:18   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30  2:18     ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30  2:28 ` [Qemu-devel] " Isaku Yamahata
2009-09-30  2:28   ` Isaku Yamahata
2009-09-30 13:03   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 13:03     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 13:43     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-30 13:43       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-30  5:17 ` Amit Shah
2009-09-30  5:17   ` [Qemu-devel] " Amit Shah
2009-09-30 13:04   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 13:04     ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 13:37     ` Amit Shah
2009-09-30 13:37       ` [Qemu-devel] " Amit Shah
2009-09-30 14:47       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 14:47         ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 14:50         ` Amit Shah
2009-09-30 14:50           ` [Qemu-devel] " Amit Shah
2009-09-30  6:41 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2009-09-30  6:41   ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-30 13:05   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 13:05     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-01 21:13     ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-10-01 21:13       ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-10-03 10:04       ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-05 12:43         ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-10-05 13:52           ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-30 13:31   ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-09-30  8:53 ` Michael Tokarev
2009-09-30  9:01   ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-30  9:31 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-09-30  9:31   ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-09-30 13:07   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 13:07     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 15:59     ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-09-30 15:59       ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-09-30 19:25       ` Blue Swirl
2009-09-30 13:30 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-09-30 13:30   ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-09-30 14:45   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 14:45     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 15:03     ` Fred Leeflang
2009-09-30 15:03       ` [Qemu-devel] " Fred Leeflang
2009-09-30 15:26       ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-09-30 15:26         ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-09-30 17:03     ` Juan Quintela
2009-09-30 19:28     ` [Qemu-devel] " Gerd Hoffmann
2009-09-30 19:28       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-10-01  1:55 ` Natalia Portillo
2009-10-01  8:07   ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-10-01 21:02     ` Jordan Justen
2009-10-02  4:38     ` Natalia Portillo
2009-10-02  5:37       ` Jordan Justen
2009-10-02 22:33         ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-10-01 12:45   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-01 21:10     ` Jordan Justen
2009-10-01 21:23       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-02  0:41         ` Jordan Justen
2009-10-02 13:29           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-02 16:58             ` Jordan Justen
2009-10-02 18:45               ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-10-02 18:53                 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-02 21:39                   ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-10-02 22:28                     ` Jordan Justen
2009-10-02 23:05                       ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-10-03  0:32                         ` Jordan Justen
2009-10-03 17:30                           ` [coreboot] " Peter Stuge
2009-10-03 21:49                             ` Jordan Justen
2009-10-03 21:58                               ` Patrick Georgi
2009-10-04 19:31                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-04 19:39                                   ` Stefan Reinauer
2009-10-05 13:03                                     ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2009-10-05 13:23                                       ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-10-05 13:51                                         ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-05 14:43                                           ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-10-04 19:49                                   ` Patrick Georgi
2009-10-05 13:07                                     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-03 22:02                               ` Stefan Reinauer
2009-10-03 22:40                                 ` Jordan Justen
2009-10-03 23:03                                   ` Stefan Reinauer
2009-10-03 23:52                                     ` Jordan Justen
2009-10-03 15:08                     ` Gleb Natapov
2009-10-03 17:32                       ` [coreboot] " Peter Stuge
2009-10-03 17:40                         ` ron minnich
2009-10-03 18:16                           ` Gleb Natapov
2009-10-03 18:30                             ` Peter Stuge
2009-10-03 19:09                               ` Kevin O'Connor
2009-10-03 19:09                               ` Gleb Natapov
2009-10-03 22:13                           ` Jordan Justen
2009-10-03 22:19                             ` Patrick Georgi
2009-10-03 23:04                               ` Jordan Justen
2009-10-04 19:35                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-04  4:10                               ` Natalia Portillo
2009-10-04 11:16                                 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-10-04 16:06                                   ` Natalia Portillo
2009-10-05  0:29                                     ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-10-03 22:46                             ` Stefan Reinauer
     [not found]                             ` <CB4CCBB6-0EE4-4883-AA4D-2151189C7977@claunia.com>
     [not found]                               ` <2a50f7880910031701s52c901d8u2dfb956f595eeedf@mail.gmail.com>
2009-10-04  3:55                                 ` Natalia Portillo
2009-10-05 14:08                                   ` Lennart Sorensen
2009-10-02 20:57                 ` Jordan Justen
2009-10-02 21:37                   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-02 22:19                   ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-10-02  4:55       ` Natalia Portillo
2009-10-01 20:50   ` Stuart Brady
2009-10-02  4:51     ` Natalia Portillo
2009-10-02 19:07       ` Stuart Brady
2009-10-02 20:21         ` Natalia Portillo
2009-10-01 18:45 ` Stefan Weil
2009-10-01 19:02   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-01 19:18     ` Stefan Weil
2009-10-03  4:28 ` TAKEDA, toshiya
2009-10-03  4:28   ` [Qemu-devel] " TAKEDA, toshiya
2009-10-08 13:55 ` Jens Osterkamp
2009-10-08 14:21   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-08 14:21     ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-10-14 13:09     ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-10-14 13:09       ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-10-14 13:53       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-14 13:53         ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-14 14:01         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-14 14:01           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-14 14:04       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-14 14:04         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-14 13:21     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-14 13:21       ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-14 14:17       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-14 14:17         ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-10-14 14:24         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-14 14:24           ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-14 15:19           ` Jamie Lokier
2009-10-14 15:19             ` Jamie Lokier
2009-10-14 15:50             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-14 15:50               ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-14 21:10               ` Sridhar Samudrala
2009-10-14 21:10                 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2009-10-14 22:53                 ` Raw vs. tap (was: Re: Re: Release plan for 0.12.0) Anthony Liguori
2009-10-14 22:53                   ` Raw vs. tap (was: Re: [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-10-15  6:36                   ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-10-15  6:36                     ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-10-15  7:56                   ` Raw vs. tap (was: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-15  7:56                     ` Raw vs. tap (was: Re: [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-15 13:32                     ` Raw vs. tap Anthony Liguori
2009-10-15 13:32                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-10-15 15:04                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-15 15:04                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-15 15:18                         ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-15 15:18                           ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-10-15 15:48                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-15 15:48                             ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-15 18:37                             ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-15 18:37                               ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-10-15 22:08                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-15 22:08                                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-18 10:05                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-18 10:05                               ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-15  7:51                 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: Release plan for 0.12.0 Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-15  7:51                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-20  6:33 ` Takahiro Hirofuchi
2009-10-20  6:33   ` [Qemu-devel] " Takahiro Hirofuchi

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