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From: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
To: Patrick Georgi <patrick@georgi-clan.de>
Cc: Coreboot <coreboot@coreboot.org>,
	stepan@coresystems.de,
	Carl-Daniel Hailfinger <c-d.hailfinger.devel.2006@gmx.net>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com>,
	Jordan Justen <jljusten@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [coreboot] [Qemu-devel] Release plan for 0.12.0
Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 14:31:24 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AC8F80C.2050702@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1254607096.12717.10.camel@tetris>

Patrick Georgi wrote:
> With coreboot, seabios and Duet, it should be reasonably simple to
> provide a single BIOS image that selects (based on nvram - ie.
> configuration) which interface to provide: PCBIOS or UEFI.
>   

That isn't terribly useful for QEMU because it implies that QEMU needs 
to make the decision about which one to use.  If QEMU was capable of 
making that decision without user intervention, then we could just 
select to load PCBIOS or UEFI.

> If that is just as simple with OVMF, and easier to maintain, then it's
> hard to argue with that.
>   

I don't know enough about EFI, but my concern is that down the road, 
hardware devices will start to exist that require EFI because they 
implement EFI modules and not legacy option ROMs.  In order to support 
PCI passthrough of such devices, we will need to provide an EFI capable 
firmware.

It's really just a matter of how long before this becomes a problem for us.

-- 
Regards,

Anthony Liguori

  reply	other threads:[~2009-10-04 19:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 163+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-29 23:54 Release plan for 0.12.0 Anthony Liguori
2009-09-29 23:54 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30  0:20 ` Dustin Kirkland
2009-09-30  0:20   ` [Qemu-devel] " Dustin Kirkland
2009-09-30  2:18   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30  2:18     ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30  2:28 ` [Qemu-devel] " Isaku Yamahata
2009-09-30  2:28   ` Isaku Yamahata
2009-09-30 13:03   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 13:03     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 13:43     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-30 13:43       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-30  5:17 ` Amit Shah
2009-09-30  5:17   ` [Qemu-devel] " Amit Shah
2009-09-30 13:04   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 13:04     ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 13:37     ` Amit Shah
2009-09-30 13:37       ` [Qemu-devel] " Amit Shah
2009-09-30 14:47       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 14:47         ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 14:50         ` Amit Shah
2009-09-30 14:50           ` [Qemu-devel] " Amit Shah
2009-09-30  6:41 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2009-09-30  6:41   ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-30 13:05   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 13:05     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-01 21:13     ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-10-01 21:13       ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-10-03 10:04       ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-05 12:43         ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-10-05 13:52           ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-30 13:31   ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-09-30  8:53 ` Michael Tokarev
2009-09-30  9:01   ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-30  9:31 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-09-30  9:31   ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-09-30 13:07   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 13:07     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 15:59     ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-09-30 15:59       ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-09-30 19:25       ` Blue Swirl
2009-09-30 13:30 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-09-30 13:30   ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-09-30 14:45   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 14:45     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 15:03     ` Fred Leeflang
2009-09-30 15:03       ` [Qemu-devel] " Fred Leeflang
2009-09-30 15:26       ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-09-30 15:26         ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-09-30 17:03     ` Juan Quintela
2009-09-30 19:28     ` [Qemu-devel] " Gerd Hoffmann
2009-09-30 19:28       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-10-01  1:55 ` Natalia Portillo
2009-10-01  8:07   ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-10-01 21:02     ` Jordan Justen
2009-10-02  4:38     ` Natalia Portillo
2009-10-02  5:37       ` Jordan Justen
2009-10-02 22:33         ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-10-01 12:45   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-01 21:10     ` Jordan Justen
2009-10-01 21:23       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-02  0:41         ` Jordan Justen
2009-10-02 13:29           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-02 16:58             ` Jordan Justen
2009-10-02 18:45               ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-10-02 18:53                 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-02 21:39                   ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-10-02 22:28                     ` Jordan Justen
2009-10-02 23:05                       ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-10-03  0:32                         ` Jordan Justen
2009-10-03 17:30                           ` [coreboot] " Peter Stuge
2009-10-03 21:49                             ` Jordan Justen
2009-10-03 21:58                               ` Patrick Georgi
2009-10-04 19:31                                 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2009-10-04 19:39                                   ` Stefan Reinauer
2009-10-05 13:03                                     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-05 13:23                                       ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-10-05 13:51                                         ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-05 14:43                                           ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-10-04 19:49                                   ` Patrick Georgi
2009-10-05 13:07                                     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-03 22:02                               ` Stefan Reinauer
2009-10-03 22:40                                 ` Jordan Justen
2009-10-03 23:03                                   ` Stefan Reinauer
2009-10-03 23:52                                     ` Jordan Justen
2009-10-03 15:08                     ` Gleb Natapov
2009-10-03 17:32                       ` [coreboot] " Peter Stuge
2009-10-03 17:40                         ` ron minnich
2009-10-03 18:16                           ` Gleb Natapov
2009-10-03 18:30                             ` Peter Stuge
2009-10-03 19:09                               ` Kevin O'Connor
2009-10-03 19:09                               ` Gleb Natapov
2009-10-03 22:13                           ` Jordan Justen
2009-10-03 22:19                             ` Patrick Georgi
2009-10-03 23:04                               ` Jordan Justen
2009-10-04 19:35                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-04  4:10                               ` Natalia Portillo
2009-10-04 11:16                                 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-10-04 16:06                                   ` Natalia Portillo
2009-10-05  0:29                                     ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-10-03 22:46                             ` Stefan Reinauer
     [not found]                             ` <CB4CCBB6-0EE4-4883-AA4D-2151189C7977@claunia.com>
     [not found]                               ` <2a50f7880910031701s52c901d8u2dfb956f595eeedf@mail.gmail.com>
2009-10-04  3:55                                 ` Natalia Portillo
2009-10-05 14:08                                   ` Lennart Sorensen
2009-10-02 20:57                 ` Jordan Justen
2009-10-02 21:37                   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-02 22:19                   ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-10-02  4:55       ` Natalia Portillo
2009-10-01 20:50   ` Stuart Brady
2009-10-02  4:51     ` Natalia Portillo
2009-10-02 19:07       ` Stuart Brady
2009-10-02 20:21         ` Natalia Portillo
2009-10-01 18:45 ` Stefan Weil
2009-10-01 19:02   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-01 19:18     ` Stefan Weil
2009-10-03  4:28 ` TAKEDA, toshiya
2009-10-03  4:28   ` [Qemu-devel] " TAKEDA, toshiya
2009-10-08 13:55 ` Jens Osterkamp
2009-10-08 14:21   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-08 14:21     ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-10-14 13:09     ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-10-14 13:09       ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-10-14 13:53       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-14 13:53         ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-14 14:01         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-14 14:01           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-14 14:04       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-14 14:04         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-14 13:21     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-14 13:21       ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-14 14:17       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-14 14:17         ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-10-14 14:24         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-14 14:24           ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-14 15:19           ` Jamie Lokier
2009-10-14 15:19             ` Jamie Lokier
2009-10-14 15:50             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-14 15:50               ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-14 21:10               ` Sridhar Samudrala
2009-10-14 21:10                 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2009-10-14 22:53                 ` Raw vs. tap (was: Re: Re: Release plan for 0.12.0) Anthony Liguori
2009-10-14 22:53                   ` Raw vs. tap (was: Re: [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-10-15  6:36                   ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-10-15  6:36                     ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-10-15  7:56                   ` Raw vs. tap (was: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-15  7:56                     ` Raw vs. tap (was: Re: [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-15 13:32                     ` Raw vs. tap Anthony Liguori
2009-10-15 13:32                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-10-15 15:04                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-15 15:04                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-15 15:18                         ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-15 15:18                           ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-10-15 15:48                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-15 15:48                             ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-15 18:37                             ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-15 18:37                               ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-10-15 22:08                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-15 22:08                                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-18 10:05                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-18 10:05                               ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-15  7:51                 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: Release plan for 0.12.0 Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-15  7:51                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-20  6:33 ` Takahiro Hirofuchi
2009-10-20  6:33   ` [Qemu-devel] " Takahiro Hirofuchi

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