From: Stefan Reinauer <stepan@coresystems.de>
To: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Coreboot <coreboot@coreboot.org>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
Carl-Daniel Hailfinger <c-d.hailfinger.devel.2006@gmx.net>,
ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com>,
Jordan Justen <jljusten@gmail.com>,
Patrick Georgi <patrick@georgi-clan.de>
Subject: Re: [coreboot] [Qemu-devel] Release plan for 0.12.0
Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 21:39:30 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AC8F9F2.3030508@coresystems.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4AC8F80C.2050702@us.ibm.com>
Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Patrick Georgi wrote:
>> With coreboot, seabios and Duet, it should be reasonably simple to
>> provide a single BIOS image that selects (based on nvram - ie.
>> configuration) which interface to provide: PCBIOS or UEFI.
>>
>
> That isn't terribly useful for QEMU because it implies that QEMU needs
> to make the decision about which one to use. If QEMU was capable of
> making that decision without user intervention, then we could just
> select to load PCBIOS or UEFI.
Are you guys sure you want to go down that road rather than using an
UEFI with a CSM? There may be cases when you really want to boot legacy
even though your client can do UEFI.
> I don't know enough about EFI, but my concern is that down the road,
> hardware devices will start to exist that require EFI because they
> implement EFI modules and not legacy option ROMs. In order to support
> PCI passthrough of such devices, we will need to provide an EFI
> capable firmware.
>
> It's really just a matter of how long before this becomes a problem
> for us.
This was attempted for Open Firmware and never happened during its life
time. I doubt there is any incentive for vendors to ship devices without
legacy option roms, especially since there is no advantage in doing so.
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-10-04 19:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 163+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-09-29 23:54 Release plan for 0.12.0 Anthony Liguori
2009-09-29 23:54 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 0:20 ` Dustin Kirkland
2009-09-30 0:20 ` [Qemu-devel] " Dustin Kirkland
2009-09-30 2:18 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 2:18 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 2:28 ` [Qemu-devel] " Isaku Yamahata
2009-09-30 2:28 ` Isaku Yamahata
2009-09-30 13:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 13:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 13:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-30 13:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-30 5:17 ` Amit Shah
2009-09-30 5:17 ` [Qemu-devel] " Amit Shah
2009-09-30 13:04 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 13:04 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 13:37 ` Amit Shah
2009-09-30 13:37 ` [Qemu-devel] " Amit Shah
2009-09-30 14:47 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 14:47 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 14:50 ` Amit Shah
2009-09-30 14:50 ` [Qemu-devel] " Amit Shah
2009-09-30 6:41 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2009-09-30 6:41 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-30 13:05 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 13:05 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-01 21:13 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-10-01 21:13 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-10-03 10:04 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-05 12:43 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-10-05 13:52 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-30 13:31 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-09-30 8:53 ` Michael Tokarev
2009-09-30 9:01 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-30 9:31 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-09-30 9:31 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-09-30 13:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 13:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 15:59 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-09-30 15:59 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-09-30 19:25 ` Blue Swirl
2009-09-30 13:30 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-09-30 13:30 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-09-30 14:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 14:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 15:03 ` Fred Leeflang
2009-09-30 15:03 ` [Qemu-devel] " Fred Leeflang
2009-09-30 15:26 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-09-30 15:26 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-09-30 17:03 ` Juan Quintela
2009-09-30 19:28 ` [Qemu-devel] " Gerd Hoffmann
2009-09-30 19:28 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-10-01 1:55 ` Natalia Portillo
2009-10-01 8:07 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-10-01 21:02 ` Jordan Justen
2009-10-02 4:38 ` Natalia Portillo
2009-10-02 5:37 ` Jordan Justen
2009-10-02 22:33 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-10-01 12:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-01 21:10 ` Jordan Justen
2009-10-01 21:23 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-02 0:41 ` Jordan Justen
2009-10-02 13:29 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-02 16:58 ` Jordan Justen
2009-10-02 18:45 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-10-02 18:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-02 21:39 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-10-02 22:28 ` Jordan Justen
2009-10-02 23:05 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-10-03 0:32 ` Jordan Justen
2009-10-03 17:30 ` [coreboot] " Peter Stuge
2009-10-03 21:49 ` Jordan Justen
2009-10-03 21:58 ` Patrick Georgi
2009-10-04 19:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-04 19:39 ` Stefan Reinauer [this message]
2009-10-05 13:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-05 13:23 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-10-05 13:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-05 14:43 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-10-04 19:49 ` Patrick Georgi
2009-10-05 13:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-03 22:02 ` Stefan Reinauer
2009-10-03 22:40 ` Jordan Justen
2009-10-03 23:03 ` Stefan Reinauer
2009-10-03 23:52 ` Jordan Justen
2009-10-03 15:08 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-10-03 17:32 ` [coreboot] " Peter Stuge
2009-10-03 17:40 ` ron minnich
2009-10-03 18:16 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-10-03 18:30 ` Peter Stuge
2009-10-03 19:09 ` Kevin O'Connor
2009-10-03 19:09 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-10-03 22:13 ` Jordan Justen
2009-10-03 22:19 ` Patrick Georgi
2009-10-03 23:04 ` Jordan Justen
2009-10-04 19:35 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-04 4:10 ` Natalia Portillo
2009-10-04 11:16 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-10-04 16:06 ` Natalia Portillo
2009-10-05 0:29 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-10-03 22:46 ` Stefan Reinauer
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2009-10-04 3:55 ` Natalia Portillo
2009-10-05 14:08 ` Lennart Sorensen
2009-10-02 20:57 ` Jordan Justen
2009-10-02 21:37 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-02 22:19 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-10-02 4:55 ` Natalia Portillo
2009-10-01 20:50 ` Stuart Brady
2009-10-02 4:51 ` Natalia Portillo
2009-10-02 19:07 ` Stuart Brady
2009-10-02 20:21 ` Natalia Portillo
2009-10-01 18:45 ` Stefan Weil
2009-10-01 19:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-01 19:18 ` Stefan Weil
2009-10-03 4:28 ` TAKEDA, toshiya
2009-10-03 4:28 ` [Qemu-devel] " TAKEDA, toshiya
2009-10-08 13:55 ` Jens Osterkamp
2009-10-08 14:21 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-08 14:21 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-10-14 13:09 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-10-14 13:09 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-10-14 13:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-14 13:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-14 14:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-14 14:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-14 14:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-14 14:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-14 13:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-14 13:21 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-14 14:17 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-14 14:17 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-10-14 14:24 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-14 14:24 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-14 15:19 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-10-14 15:19 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-10-14 15:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-14 15:50 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-14 21:10 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2009-10-14 21:10 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2009-10-14 22:53 ` Raw vs. tap (was: Re: Re: Release plan for 0.12.0) Anthony Liguori
2009-10-14 22:53 ` Raw vs. tap (was: Re: [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-10-15 6:36 ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-10-15 6:36 ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-10-15 7:56 ` Raw vs. tap (was: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-15 7:56 ` Raw vs. tap (was: Re: [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-15 13:32 ` Raw vs. tap Anthony Liguori
2009-10-15 13:32 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-10-15 15:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-15 15:04 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-15 15:18 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-15 15:18 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-10-15 15:48 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-15 15:48 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-15 18:37 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-15 18:37 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-10-15 22:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-15 22:08 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-18 10:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-18 10:05 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-15 7:51 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: Release plan for 0.12.0 Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-15 7:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-20 6:33 ` Takahiro Hirofuchi
2009-10-20 6:33 ` [Qemu-devel] " Takahiro Hirofuchi
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