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From: "Thomas Bächler" <thomas@archlinux.org>
To: Ruediger Meier <sweet_f_a@gmx.de>, Karel Zak <kzak@redhat.com>
Cc: "Thomas Bächler" <thomas@archlinux.org>, util-linux@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] fstrim: add systemd units
Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2014 14:49:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <534541E3.4080906@archlinux.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201404091412.34060.sweet_f_a@gmx.de>

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Am 09.04.2014 14:12, schrieb Ruediger Meier:
>> well, "fstrim -a" contains heruistic to select the right filestems
>> (it really does not call trim for all devices), it has been
>> implemented to *avoid* sysadmins creativity. If you don't like it,
>> you can use "fstrim <device>" (for example from crontab).
> 
> I'd like the documentation more detailed.
> Does it really run on all mounts or only /etc/fstab?
> Does it write on automounted devices which are probably not owned by the 
> admin? Does it affect read-only mounts?

The documentation is precise here:

'Trim all mounted filesystems on devices that support the discard
operation.'

It says exactly what it will do. Every one of your questions is answered.

> IMO the task itself is already installed since we have fstrim's 
> option -a". You just need to _enable_ it to run whenever you want for 
> example by using crontab. That's trivial.

Because it takes time. I have done it four times already and it cost me
several minutes each time. Now nobody has to do it again.

> Nobody would have thought about adding a 1-liner cronjob file to 
> util-linux eventhough any distro has /etc/cron.daily/. But now systemd 
> timer? Thats what I don't understand.

I don't know why nobody thought about doing that in the past, maybe
nobody cared about the needs of all those other admins. Maybe because
installing a file into cron.daily automatically enables it. Maybe
because nobody cared about anything but his own system?

> If _creating_ a systemd timer is too complicated for today's admins

It is not complicated, it is just a task that shouldn't be repeated
countless times.



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  reply	other threads:[~2014-04-09 12:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-03 21:41 [PATCH] fstrim: add systemd units Thomas Bächler
2014-04-07 10:43 ` Karel Zak
2014-04-08 10:25   ` Ruediger Meier
2014-04-08 10:57     ` Thomas Bächler
2014-04-08 12:07       ` Ruediger Meier
2014-04-08 15:42         ` Dave Reisner
2014-04-08 17:12           ` Ruediger Meier
2014-04-09  7:52         ` Karel Zak
2014-04-09 10:07           ` Ruediger Meier
2014-04-09 11:02             ` Karel Zak
2014-04-09 12:12               ` Ruediger Meier
2014-04-09 12:49                 ` Thomas Bächler [this message]
2014-04-09 15:16                   ` Ruediger Meier
2014-04-09 15:24                     ` Thomas Bächler
2014-04-09 15:44                       ` Ruediger Meier
2014-04-09 14:02               ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2014-04-09 15:48                 ` Ruediger Meier
2014-04-09 15:55                   ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2014-04-09 18:39                     ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-04-10  8:05                       ` Karel Zak
2014-04-10  9:17                         ` Ruediger Meier
2014-04-10 12:49                           ` Karel Zak
2014-04-10 13:16                             ` Ruediger Meier
2014-04-10 13:22                               ` Ruediger Meier
2014-04-08 17:26       ` Karel Zak
2014-04-08 17:30         ` Thomas Bächler

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