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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: "Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@kernel.org>
Cc: Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@intel.com>,
	"Reshetova, Elena" <elena.reshetova@intel.com>,
	Xu Yilun <yilun.xu@linux.intel.com>,
	"linux-coco@lists.linux.dev" <linux-coco@lists.linux.dev>,
	Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>,
	"Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@amd.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
	Steven Price <steven.price@arm.com>,
	Kiryl Shutsemau <kas@kernel.org>,
	"Edgecombe, Rick P" <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	Ashish Kalra <ashish.kalra@amd.com>,
	Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>,
	John Allen <john.allen@amd.com>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	"patches@lists.linux.dev" <patches@lists.linux.dev>,
	Alistair <alistair23@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 10/11] virt: coco: arm-cca-host: Publish slot zero and establish streams after acceptance
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2026 15:06:45 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20261113190645.GB3706007@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <yq5a8q2wn18b.fsf@kernel.org>

On Fri, Nov 13, 2026 at 09:59:56PM +0530, Aneesh Kumar K.V wrote:

> >> BTW, this proposal does require RMM changes. I have also omitted SPDM
> >> 1.3 multi-key support from this diagram because it will be easier to
> >> follow once the SPDM 1.2 flow is clear.
> >
> > IMHO, leave everything alone as is today. We can make it work well
> > enough as is.
> 
> Could you describe the flow you have in mind? Would we restrict
> everything to slot 0, without allowing userspace to select another slot,
> as this patch series does?

Unchanged from the earlier email, option a

https://lore.kernel.org/all/20261103151643.GI274202@nvidia.com/

1) CTLV Start Connect -> NOP
2) CTLV Try to fetch certificates -> EOPNOTSUPP
3) CTLV Finish Connect w/ slot #:
    PDEV_CREATE
    COMMUNICATE
    PDEV_NEEDS_KEY
    COMMUNICATE
    PDEV_READY
4) CTLV Now can fetch limited transcript and cert chain:
    RMI_DEV_PROTOCOL_DATA is broken up into 6 transcript entries "VCA"
    Certificates for slot # are directly from the RMI_DEV_IDENTITY
    (hopefully, the specs are unclear *exactly* which bytes are
     captured)
5) CTLV Accept
    RMI_PDEV_STREAM_CONNECT

Then VMM creates a special "vdevice attestation FD" through iommufd.
RHI maps onto this:

a. RMI_DEV_PROTOCOL_DATA reconstruct by concatenating the 6 transcript
   messages to make VCA
b. RMI_DEV_IDENTITY reconstruct by reading the certificate chain
c. RHI_DA_VDEV_GET_MEASUREMENTS and RHI_DA_VDEV_GET_INTERFACE_REPORT
   map to the evidence collection API

The kernel knows that the "vdevice attestation FD" uses the _VDEV_
versions of the RMI APIs while the /dev/attestationXX FD uses the
_PDEV_ versions.

From there we might someday have common code to do capture and then we
drop the VCA decoding and RMI_DEV_IDENTITY to just use the capture
logic. This now gives a complete transcript.

Then the other emails enable option c which makes the certificates
available at step #2.

I've got similar mappings drafted out for the other two arches and
this seems to be OK.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2026-11-13 19:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 105+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-28 15:26 [RFC PATCH v1 00/11] PCI/TSM: Add CTLV attestation Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-10-28 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH v1 01/11] attestation: Restrict inherited operations per instance Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-10-30 13:29   ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-28 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH v1 02/11] attestation: Filter evidence objects " Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-10-30 13:44   ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-31  6:24     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-11-02 19:14       ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-28 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH v1 03/11] attestation: Enter secure operation when evidence is accepted Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-10-30 13:51   ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-30 15:36     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-31  4:09     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-11-02 11:28       ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-28 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH v1 04/11] attestation: Bind object selection to accepted evidence snapshots Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-10-28 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH v1 05/11] attestation: Make the evidence-get challenge attribute optional Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-10-28 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH v1 06/11] PCI/TSM: Describe the PCI attestation control family Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-10-30 14:01   ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-30 15:43     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-11-02 12:45       ` Jiri Pirko
2026-11-03 15:45         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-11-04  9:21           ` Jiri Pirko
2026-11-04 14:00             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-31  4:05     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-11-02 11:50       ` Jiri Pirko
2026-11-03 15:35       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-31  4:22     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-11-02 11:30       ` Jiri Pirko
2026-11-03 15:39       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-28 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH v1 07/11] attestation: Add attestation helpers for PCI/TSM integration Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-10-28 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH v1 08/11] PCI/TSM: Bind CTLV attestation to connected and locked contexts Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-10-28 22:56   ` Dave Jiang
2026-10-29  5:30     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-10-29 12:41       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-30 14:04   ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-30 14:08   ` Jiri Pirko
2026-10-30 15:39     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-11-02 12:11       ` Jiri Pirko
2026-11-03 15:41         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-28 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH v1 09/11] crypto/ccp: Defer SEV-TIO link setup until evidence acceptance Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-11-06  7:47   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-11-06 13:14     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-11-06 14:21       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-11-09 10:03       ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-11-12  6:23         ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-10-28 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH v1 10/11] virt: coco: arm-cca-host: Publish slot zero and establish streams after acceptance Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-10-29 16:56   ` Dave Jiang
2026-10-29 17:10     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-30  9:58       ` Reshetova, Elena
2026-10-30 13:15         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-31  3:47           ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-11-02 10:11             ` Reshetova, Elena
2026-11-02 17:26               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-11-03 12:01                 ` Reshetova, Elena
2026-11-03 15:16                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-11-04  8:03                     ` Xu Yilun
2026-11-04  9:49                       ` Reshetova, Elena
2026-11-04 13:41                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-11-04 16:54                           ` Dave Jiang
2026-11-06 15:53                             ` Dave Jiang
2026-11-06 19:30                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-11-06 22:39                                 ` Dave Jiang
2026-11-08 18:33                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-11-09 10:55                                     ` Reshetova, Elena
2026-11-09 13:47                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-11-09 17:37                                     ` Dave Jiang
2026-11-09 18:53                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-11-09 20:54                                         ` Dave Jiang
2026-11-09 23:40                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-11-10 13:15                                             ` Reshetova, Elena
2026-11-10 14:20                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-11-11 13:09                                                 ` Reshetova, Elena
2026-11-11 14:13                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-11-12  1:48                                                     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-11-12 12:31                                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-11-10  1:40                                         ` Alistair
2026-11-10 15:07                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-11-10  5:32                                         ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-11-10 12:52                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-11-11  9:03                                             ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-11-12  9:37                                 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-11-12 14:52                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-11-12 15:47                                     ` Dave Jiang
2026-11-12 16:37                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-11-13  8:54                                     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-11-13 14:52                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-11-13 16:29                                         ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-11-13 19:06                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2026-11-13 16:38                                         ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-11-13 19:12                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-11-13 17:12                                         ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-11-13 19:34                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-11-10 20:07                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-11-04  9:03                     ` Reshetova, Elena
2026-11-04 13:48                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-11-06  8:24                     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-11-06 12:49                       ` Reshetova, Elena
2026-11-06 15:53                         ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-11-06 18:54                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-11-03 16:31                 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-11-03 17:56                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-11-02 10:05           ` Reshetova, Elena
2026-11-02 10:22           ` Reshetova, Elena
2026-11-02 17:37             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-28 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH v1 11/11] virt: coco: arm-cca-guest: Refresh selected evidence against trusted digests Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-10-30 12:34 ` [RFC PATCH v1 00/11] PCI/TSM: Add CTLV attestation Xu Yilun
2026-10-30 15:32   ` Jason Gunthorpe

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