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From: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
To: Sujith <Sujith.Manoharan@atheros.com>
Cc: "linville@tuxdriver.com" <linville@tuxdriver.com>,
	"linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org" <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
	Luis Rodriguez <Luis.Rodriguez@Atheros.com>,
	"tomasw@gmail.com" <tomasw@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] mac80211: Re-enable aggregation
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:12:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1224493957.18024.47.camel@johannes.berg> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <18684.18492.94865.480736@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

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On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 14:28 +0530, Sujith wrote:
> Johannes Berg wrote:
>  >  

Can you change your quote string from " > " to "> "? Just asking, if you
can't/don't want to that's fine, it just always confuses me for a
second. I really should try to figure out if I can convince my mailer to
highlight " > " indented text as quote too.

> Well, currently ath9k maintains a buffer list for each tid.
> When mac80211 sends down a frame, if the recipient has an aggr. session going,
> it is appended to the tid's buffer list. Non-HT frames are sent out immediately.

Incidentally, why the distinction between HT and non-HT frames?

> On TX completion, we run through all the ACs, STAs and TIDs and send out pending
> frames as aggregates.

So basically you can always have one frame or one aggregation
"pack" (for lack of a better word) queued to the hw?

> IMO, this is heavy stuff for a driver.

Yeah most of it probably is.

> mac80211 can probably help by maintaining the TX state for each TID, maintain the
> buffer list, etc.  and provide appropriate mechanisms for drivers to obtain pending
> frames as and when needed.

Sure could. Intel's hw would probably like a way to say "stop this TID"
and "wake this TID" which is what they tried to do using real queues.
mac80211 could queue up the frames in per-station state and provide a
functions like

ieee80211_stop_aggr_stream(struct ieee80211_sta *sta, u8 tid);
ieee80211_wake_aggr_stream(struct ieee80211_sta *sta, u8 tid);

or something like that. Then those frames would flow into the right
queue. We might need a multi-layer start/stop management but we already
do, we've just managed to get away without it without tx stalls. Or they
just haven't been reported yet.

johannes

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-10-20  9:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-20  8:22 [RFC] mac80211: Re-enable aggregation Sujith
2008-10-20  8:31 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-20  8:35   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-20  8:45     ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-20  8:47       ` Sujith
2008-10-20  8:55         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-20  8:57           ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-20  9:01             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-20  9:04               ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-20  9:05                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-20  9:11                 ` Sujith
2008-10-20  8:57       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-20  8:58   ` Sujith
2008-10-20  9:12     ` Johannes Berg [this message]
2008-10-20  9:31       ` Sujith
2008-10-20  9:38         ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-20 10:35           ` Sujith
2008-10-20 12:22             ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-20 18:03               ` Sujith
2008-10-20 21:46                 ` Tomas Winkler
2008-10-21  6:46                   ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-21  7:18                   ` Sujith
2008-10-22 10:03                   ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-22 11:59                     ` Tomas Winkler
2008-10-22 17:22                       ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-23  8:57                         ` Sujith
2008-10-23 14:46                           ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-27 14:25                             ` Sujith
2008-10-27 15:04                               ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-27 15:56                                 ` Tomas Winkler
2008-10-27 16:04                                   ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-28 14:24                                     ` Tomas Winkler
2008-10-22 10:00                 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-22 11:41                   ` Tomas Winkler
2008-10-22 17:24                     ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-23  9:31                   ` Sujith
2008-10-23 14:45                     ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-23 17:23                       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-23 18:31                         ` Tomas Winkler
2008-10-23 20:18                           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-23 21:17                             ` Tomas Winkler
2008-10-31  1:26                               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-27 14:11                       ` Sujith
2008-10-27 15:07                         ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-20  9:14     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-20  9:24       ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-20 10:07         ` Sujith
2008-10-20 10:15           ` Johannes Berg

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