From: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
To: Tomas Winkler <tomasw@gmail.com>
Cc: Sujith <m.sujith@gmail.com>,
Sujith <Sujith.Manoharan@atheros.com>,
"linville@tuxdriver.com" <linville@tuxdriver.com>,
"linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org" <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
Luis Rodriguez <Luis.Rodriguez@atheros.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] mac80211: Re-enable aggregation
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:24:29 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1224696269.30459.15.camel@johannes.berg> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1ba2fa240810220441o5b86e29co183deb7dc273fb0a@mail.gmail.com> (sfid-20081022_134116_057747_7F7CB0C2)
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On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 13:41 +0200, Tomas Winkler wrote:
> >> * mac80211 sends down a frame
> >> * Initiate an aggregation session for the <RA,TID> if one isn't already in progress.
> >
> > It seems that should be a rate control decision? Possibly taking into
> > account more than just always doing aggregation sessions. Then again, I
> > suppose aggregation sessions are cheap. What about latency here?
>
> Aggregation has it's overhead, both computing resources and on the
> air. Obvious that it has negative affect on latency so if the 'minimum
> HW queue depth' is not satisfied the packets
> are delayed till the queue is full enough.
That would be "do I have enough frames to aggregate them"?
> In iwl-agn-rs scale we keep track of current tpt to take decision
> about starting aggregation. The throughput watch can be viewed as
> different entity it was just convenient and conceptually fit to
> incorporate into rate scale.
Sure, that kinda makes sense. The RC algorithm is conceptually
responsible for making sure things go as fast as possible :)
> > Obviously. But why isn't this done in parallel? I mean, why not send out
> > the frame and do addba and don't aggregate until addba was successful,
> > that would mean no latency for those frames... addba could even time out
> > which would add a lot of latency, no?
>
> The negotiation is done on starting sequence number.
Ah, good point.
johannes
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Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-10-20 8:22 [RFC] mac80211: Re-enable aggregation Sujith
2008-10-20 8:31 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-20 8:35 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-20 8:45 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-20 8:47 ` Sujith
2008-10-20 8:55 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-20 8:57 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-20 9:01 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-20 9:04 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-20 9:05 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-20 9:11 ` Sujith
2008-10-20 8:57 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-20 8:58 ` Sujith
2008-10-20 9:12 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-20 9:31 ` Sujith
2008-10-20 9:38 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-20 10:35 ` Sujith
2008-10-20 12:22 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-20 18:03 ` Sujith
2008-10-20 21:46 ` Tomas Winkler
2008-10-21 6:46 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-21 7:18 ` Sujith
2008-10-22 10:03 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-22 11:59 ` Tomas Winkler
2008-10-22 17:22 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-23 8:57 ` Sujith
2008-10-23 14:46 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-27 14:25 ` Sujith
2008-10-27 15:04 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-27 15:56 ` Tomas Winkler
2008-10-27 16:04 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-28 14:24 ` Tomas Winkler
2008-10-22 10:00 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-22 11:41 ` Tomas Winkler
2008-10-22 17:24 ` Johannes Berg [this message]
2008-10-23 9:31 ` Sujith
2008-10-23 14:45 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-23 17:23 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-23 18:31 ` Tomas Winkler
2008-10-23 20:18 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-23 21:17 ` Tomas Winkler
2008-10-31 1:26 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-27 14:11 ` Sujith
2008-10-27 15:07 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-20 9:14 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-20 9:24 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-20 10:07 ` Sujith
2008-10-20 10:15 ` Johannes Berg
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