From: Sujith <m.sujith@gmail.com>
To: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
Cc: "linville@tuxdriver.com" <linville@tuxdriver.com>,
"linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org" <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
Luis Rodriguez <Luis.Rodriguez@Atheros.com>,
"tomasw@gmail.com" <tomasw@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] mac80211: Re-enable aggregation
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:41:32 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <18693.52244.207787.514254@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1224773124.6002.32.camel@johannes.berg>
Johannes Berg wrote:
> If that was done in the RC at least (could easily be moved I suppose)
> and you cleaned up the RC, then surely nbd would play with porting
> minstrel and making it aware of such things, which probably makes for a
> better RC... And since you have to clean up the RC anyway :)
>
Sure, just migrating to minstrel would be the better option. It would
probably need to be spruced up a bit to accommodate aggregation specific
data.
> > I was talking about this:
> > (txq->axq_depth < ATH_AGGR_MIN_QDEPTH) in ath_tx_sched_aggr()@xmit.c
>
> But what does this invariant mean? ATH_AGGR_MIN_QDEPTH is 2.
>
Well, this is not relevant when frames are aggregated and sent down
by mac80211. That check was present because frames were being created and
sent in the TX tasklet.
> > How would mac80211 buffer frames ?
>
> Well I suppose it would just put them on a list in the sta_info struct.
>
A list for each TID, no ?
> > Would it wait for enough sub-frames
> > to fill an A-MPDU ?
>
> It should, no? And if for some reason that doesn't happen fast enough it
> can send them out anyway, it'll just be a shorter A-MPDU, no?
>
> > When does it decide that buffered frames have to
> > be pushed down to the driver ?
>
> When the A-MPDU is full, subject to the TX and RX constraints, or when
> too much time has passed maybe?
>
> I really don't know. But I'd like to get to a model where we can
> implement other drivers without having to keep track of all this like
> ath9k does.
To summarize a bit about the state/control information that mac80211 needs
to maintain for an aggregation session:
* Block Ack state for each TID (sequence numbers, BA window etc.)
* Maintain a list of buffers for each <RA,TID> (setup, teardown etc.)
* Handle retransmission of unacked frames.
Forming an aggregate would involve the following.
( These might depend on HW caps as well as the recipient STA's caps)
* Aggregate length
* Delimiters
* Padding of sub-frames
TX control information will probably need to pass aggr. specific information
(number of delimiters etc.)
The API for aggregation can extend the ampdu_action() callback.
Adding a few more states can probably suffice initially.
We'll work on this and come up with an RFC.
Sujith
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-10-27 14:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-10-20 8:22 [RFC] mac80211: Re-enable aggregation Sujith
2008-10-20 8:31 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-20 8:35 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-20 8:45 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-20 8:47 ` Sujith
2008-10-20 8:55 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-20 8:57 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-20 9:01 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-20 9:04 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-20 9:05 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-20 9:11 ` Sujith
2008-10-20 8:57 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-20 8:58 ` Sujith
2008-10-20 9:12 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-20 9:31 ` Sujith
2008-10-20 9:38 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-20 10:35 ` Sujith
2008-10-20 12:22 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-20 18:03 ` Sujith
2008-10-20 21:46 ` Tomas Winkler
2008-10-21 6:46 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-21 7:18 ` Sujith
2008-10-22 10:03 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-22 11:59 ` Tomas Winkler
2008-10-22 17:22 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-23 8:57 ` Sujith
2008-10-23 14:46 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-27 14:25 ` Sujith
2008-10-27 15:04 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-27 15:56 ` Tomas Winkler
2008-10-27 16:04 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-28 14:24 ` Tomas Winkler
2008-10-22 10:00 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-22 11:41 ` Tomas Winkler
2008-10-22 17:24 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-23 9:31 ` Sujith
2008-10-23 14:45 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-23 17:23 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-23 18:31 ` Tomas Winkler
2008-10-23 20:18 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-23 21:17 ` Tomas Winkler
2008-10-31 1:26 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-27 14:11 ` Sujith [this message]
2008-10-27 15:07 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-20 9:14 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-20 9:24 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-20 10:07 ` Sujith
2008-10-20 10:15 ` Johannes Berg
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