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From: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
To: Sujith <Sujith.Manoharan@atheros.com>
Cc: "linville@tuxdriver.com" <linville@tuxdriver.com>,
	"linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org" <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
	Luis Rodriguez <Luis.Rodriguez@Atheros.com>,
	"tomasw@gmail.com" <tomasw@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] mac80211: Re-enable aggregation
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 16:45:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1224773124.6002.32.camel@johannes.berg> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <18688.17545.136327.991699@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

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On Thu, 2008-10-23 at 15:01 +0530, Sujith wrote:
> Johannes Berg wrote:
> > It seems that should be a rate control decision? Possibly taking into
> > account more than just always doing aggregation sessions. Then again, I
> > suppose aggregation sessions are cheap. What about latency here?
> > 
> 
> Well, that is what Luis seems to think too, but our RC
> doesn't do much now, so we try to setup an aggregation session with any
> associated STA.

If that was done in the RC at least (could easily be moved I suppose)
and you cleaned up the RC, then surely nbd would play with porting
minstrel and making it aware of such things, which probably makes for a
better RC... And since you have to clean up the RC anyway :)

> > "maintain minimum HW queue depth"? In what way? You mean put in enough
> > frames?
> 
> I was talking about this:
> (txq->axq_depth < ATH_AGGR_MIN_QDEPTH) in ath_tx_sched_aggr()@xmit.c

But what does this invariant mean? ATH_AGGR_MIN_QDEPTH is 2.

> > > Well, I really don't know how this would affect performance, but
> > > I think this _might_ be a better model.
> > 
> > Where would you see it have a noticeable effect on performance?
> 
> How would mac80211 buffer frames ? 

Well I suppose it would just put them on a list in the sta_info struct.

> Would it wait for enough sub-frames
> to fill an A-MPDU ?

It should, no? And if for some reason that doesn't happen fast enough it
can send them out anyway, it'll just be a shorter A-MPDU, no?

>  When does it decide that buffered frames have to
> be pushed down to the driver ?

When the A-MPDU is full, subject to the TX and RX constraints, or when
too much time has passed maybe?

I really don't know. But I'd like to get to a model where we can
implement other drivers without having to keep track of all this like
ath9k does.

johannes

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-10-23 14:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-20  8:22 [RFC] mac80211: Re-enable aggregation Sujith
2008-10-20  8:31 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-20  8:35   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-20  8:45     ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-20  8:47       ` Sujith
2008-10-20  8:55         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-20  8:57           ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-20  9:01             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-20  9:04               ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-20  9:05                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-20  9:11                 ` Sujith
2008-10-20  8:57       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-20  8:58   ` Sujith
2008-10-20  9:12     ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-20  9:31       ` Sujith
2008-10-20  9:38         ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-20 10:35           ` Sujith
2008-10-20 12:22             ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-20 18:03               ` Sujith
2008-10-20 21:46                 ` Tomas Winkler
2008-10-21  6:46                   ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-21  7:18                   ` Sujith
2008-10-22 10:03                   ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-22 11:59                     ` Tomas Winkler
2008-10-22 17:22                       ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-23  8:57                         ` Sujith
2008-10-23 14:46                           ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-27 14:25                             ` Sujith
2008-10-27 15:04                               ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-27 15:56                                 ` Tomas Winkler
2008-10-27 16:04                                   ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-28 14:24                                     ` Tomas Winkler
2008-10-22 10:00                 ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-22 11:41                   ` Tomas Winkler
2008-10-22 17:24                     ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-23  9:31                   ` Sujith
2008-10-23 14:45                     ` Johannes Berg [this message]
2008-10-23 17:23                       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-23 18:31                         ` Tomas Winkler
2008-10-23 20:18                           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-23 21:17                             ` Tomas Winkler
2008-10-31  1:26                               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-27 14:11                       ` Sujith
2008-10-27 15:07                         ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-20  9:14     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-10-20  9:24       ` Johannes Berg
2008-10-20 10:07         ` Sujith
2008-10-20 10:15           ` Johannes Berg

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