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From: Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>
To: Brian Thomas Sniffen <bts@alum.mit.edu>
Cc: debian-legal@lists.debian.org, reiserfs-list@namesys.com,
	Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: reiser4 non-free?
Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 11:41:02 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <409A86BE.2020306@namesys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877jvpy08v.fsf@aule.evenmere.org>

 I don't think my clarifications of what is a derivative work conflicted 
with the GPL, they merely make it less vague as to what is a derivative 
work.  The notion that if something is linked determines whether it is 
derivative has no basis in either copyright law or the GPL.  rms, 
correct me if you disagree.

Vagueness is not a benefit to a license, but in this aspect of the GPL 
it is curable only in specific to a particular program being licensed.  
It would be nice if the GPL explicitly allowed particular instances of 
it to specify what are derivative works with some clarity.  (Richard, 
please consider that.....)

I can see that not very clever people who view the GPL as some sort of 
holy writ will make more of an issue out of it than I want to deal 
with.  So, as a result reiser4 plugins will always be compiled in and 
never dynamically loadable and the clarifications of what is or is not a 
derivative work have been removed for now.  Users and I will both lose 
as a result, and maybe some needless lawsuit will result at some time in 
the future that would have been avoided with clear definitions.

Hans

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-05-06 18:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 145+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-04-24 19:32 Fwd: reiser4 non-free? Domenico Andreoli
2004-04-25 16:13 ` MJ Ray
2004-04-30  4:50 ` Hans Reiser
2004-04-30  5:56   ` Don Armstrong
2004-04-30 11:48     ` Hans Reiser
2004-04-30 14:12       ` Jeremy Hankins
2004-04-30 15:33         ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2004-04-30 16:52           ` Hans Reiser
2004-04-30 16:58           ` Jeremy Hankins
2004-05-01 19:40           ` Steve Langasek
2004-04-30 17:07         ` David Masover
2004-04-30 17:58           ` Hubert Chan
2004-04-30 22:53             ` David Masover
2004-05-02 19:46           ` MJ Ray
2004-04-30 15:13       ` Scott James Remnant
2004-04-30 17:43       ` Don Armstrong
2004-05-02 21:02         ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-02 21:55           ` Don Armstrong
2004-05-02 22:37             ` Martin List-Petersen
2004-05-03 17:04               ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-03 17:19                 ` Martin List-Petersen
2004-05-03 17:30                   ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-03  6:58             ` mjt
2004-05-03 17:11               ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-03 17:21                 ` mjt
2004-05-03 17:35                   ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-03 17:49                     ` mjt
2004-05-03 18:00                       ` Chris Dukes
2004-05-04 16:01                         ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-04 17:57                           ` Martin Dickopp
2004-05-04 15:50                       ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-04 19:43                         ` mjt
2004-05-03 22:25               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-05-03 16:35             ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-03 18:16               ` Mahesh T. Pai
2004-05-03 18:55               ` Don Armstrong
2004-05-03 23:06               ` MJ Ray
2004-05-03 21:33           ` MJ Ray
2004-05-03 21:53             ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2004-05-04  0:00               ` MJ Ray
2004-05-04  7:52                 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2004-05-04 16:20                   ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-04 16:45                     ` MJ Ray
2004-05-04 17:02                       ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-04 17:38                         ` MJ Ray
2004-05-04 17:47                           ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-04 18:15                             ` MJ Ray
2004-05-06 18:53                               ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-06 19:00                                 ` Nikita Danilov
2004-05-06 19:14                                   ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-06 19:22                                   ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-06 21:19                                 ` MJ Ray
2004-05-06 23:21                                   ` Brian Thomas Sniffen
2004-05-06 23:29                                     ` MJ Ray
2004-05-07  7:04                                     ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-04 18:00                         ` Brian Thomas Sniffen
2004-05-06  2:52                           ` David Masover
2004-05-06 12:32                             ` Walter Landry
2004-05-06 13:44                               ` Brian Thomas Sniffen
2004-05-06 14:36                                 ` Domenico Andreoli
2004-05-06 16:35                                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-05-06 16:43                                   ` Brian Thomas Sniffen
2004-05-06 18:10                                     ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-06 18:42                                       ` Matthew Garrett
2004-05-06 18:59                                         ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-06 23:16                                           ` Steve Langasek
2004-05-06 23:18                                           ` Brian Thomas Sniffen
2004-05-07 18:18                                           ` Raul Miller
2004-05-06 22:55                                       ` Brian Thomas Sniffen
2004-05-07  1:21                                         ` Jeremy Hankins
2004-05-07  2:12                                           ` Brian Thomas Sniffen
2004-05-12 13:31                                             ` Jeremy Hankins
2004-05-07  6:47                                         ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-08 13:50                                           ` Sami Liedes
2004-05-06 23:23                                       ` Matthew Palmer
2004-05-06 23:40                                         ` Raul Miller
2004-05-07  0:15                                           ` Stefan Traby
2004-05-10 17:15                                           ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-10 17:20                                             ` Raul Miller
2004-05-07 16:14                                         ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-09  7:08                                           ` Matthew Palmer
2004-05-06 18:41                                     ` Hans Reiser [this message]
2004-05-06 19:40                                       ` Stefan Traby
2004-05-04 18:57                         ` Fwd: " Jeremy Hankins
2004-05-06 19:34                           ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-06 19:49                             ` Chris Dukes
2004-05-06 19:54                               ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-06 19:56                                 ` Chris Dukes
2004-05-06 20:02                                   ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-04 17:20                     ` Martin Michlmayr
2004-05-04 17:40                       ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-04 17:54                       ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-04 18:44                         ` Joe Wreschnig
2004-05-06 18:58                           ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-10 17:59                     ` Branden Robinson
2004-04-30 12:02     ` Hans Reiser
2004-04-30 13:25       ` Fwd: reiser4 non-free? [OT] evilninja
2004-04-30 13:34       ` Fwd: reiser4 non-free? MJ Ray
2004-05-03 14:24         ` Claus Färber
2004-05-04  9:56           ` MJ Ray
2004-05-10 18:15             ` Branden Robinson
2004-04-30 12:20   ` Walter Landry
2004-04-30 14:55     ` Narcoleptic Electron
2004-04-30  8:34 ` Fwd: " Stewart Smith
2004-04-30 18:15   ` Steve Langasek
2004-05-02 18:51     ` Hans Reiser
2004-04-30 16:26 ` Michael Milverton
2004-04-30 16:56   ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-01  5:02     ` Michael Milverton
2004-05-02 19:12       ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-02 21:03         ` Stefan Traby
2004-04-30 16:56   ` MJ Ray
2004-04-30 17:13     ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-02 19:42       ` MJ Ray
2004-05-02 19:55         ` Hans Reiser
2004-04-30 17:23   ` Jason Stubbs
2004-04-30 22:39     ` David Masover
2004-05-03 22:15       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-05-04  2:07         ` David Masover
2004-05-02 17:03     ` Hans Reiser
     [not found] <kkKLVD.A.2NF.qPomAB@murphy>
2004-05-06 19:26 ` Humberto Massa
     [not found] <pHiWpB.A.zfD.ypomAB@murphy>
2004-05-06 19:56 ` Humberto Massa
2004-05-06 20:01   ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-06 20:03   ` Narcoleptic Electron
2004-05-06 20:17     ` Humberto Massa
2004-05-06 20:08   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-05-08  1:21     ` Richard Stallman
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-05-08 14:13 Humberto Massa
2004-05-09 18:47 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-10 11:22 Humberto Massa
2004-05-10 11:36 ` mjt
2004-05-11  1:49 ` Walter Landry
2004-05-11  1:58   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-05-11  2:33     ` Walter Landry
2004-05-11  3:53       ` Raul Miller
2004-05-11 15:02       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-05-11 16:03         ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-11 16:35           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-05-11 17:57             ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-11 19:06               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-05-15 21:52                 ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-11  7:10   ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-11 10:52     ` mjt
2004-05-11 17:29 Burnes, James
2004-05-11 17:53 ` Hans Reiser

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