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From: Brian Thomas Sniffen <bts@alum.mit.edu>
To: reiser@namesys.com
Cc: debian-legal@lists.debian.org, reiserfs-list@namesys.com
Subject: Re: reiser4 non-free?
Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 12:43:44 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877jvpy08v.fsf@aule.evenmere.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040506143643.GB25505@raptus.homelinux.org> (Domenico Andreoli's message of "Thu, 6 May 2004 16:36:43 +0200")

Domenico Andreoli <cavok@debian.org> writes:

> On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 09:44:01AM -0400, Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote:
>> Walter Landry <wlandry@ucsd.edu> writes:
>> 
>> > David Masover <ninja@slaphack.com> wrote:
>> >> First and foremost:  Hans, this is your project.  Someone willing to
>> >> replace entire APIs with things that feel like files is obviously not
>> >> afraid of creating something new.  So at the end of the day, it
>> >> shouldn't matter too much that it's in Debian Non-free, especially if
>> >> (assuming I heard correctly) XFree86 is also non-free.
>> >
>> > People seem to be missing this issue, so I'll bring it up again.  The
>> > problem is not so much whether the license is free or not.  The
>> > problem is that it is incompatible with the GPL.  That means that
>> > Debian can't distribute it _at all_.  Not in main, not in non-free.
>> > Not at all.
>> >
>> > The license may be perfectly free (e.g. the IBM CPL), but if it is
>> > incompatible with the GPL, then Debian can't distribute it.
>> 
>> You're right, Walter, and thank you for the clarification.  To clarify
>> further, Debian can't distribute a derivative work of the Linux kernel
>> which is not licensed under the GPL.
>
> if linux kernel distributes itself such a derivative work why debian
> can't?

Someone who is the sole copyright holder of the Linux Kernel can
distribute it linked with some other program which is not under a
GPL-compatible license.  But nobody is in that position.

It is not Debian's business to attempt to control what the kernel
folks do -- we're all grateful for shier contributions, and that's
about that.

Reiser can distribute his filesystem and tools, because they depend
only on components included with the OS, and others can redistribute
for the same reason -- but Debian, as an OS distributor, can't do
that.  It's part of why we require OpenSSL-targeted license extensions
from GPL'd work which links against libcrypto.

-Brian

-- 
Brian Sniffen                                       bts@alum.mit.edu

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-05-06 16:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 145+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-04-24 19:32 Fwd: reiser4 non-free? Domenico Andreoli
2004-04-25 16:13 ` MJ Ray
2004-04-30  4:50 ` Hans Reiser
2004-04-30  5:56   ` Don Armstrong
2004-04-30 11:48     ` Hans Reiser
2004-04-30 14:12       ` Jeremy Hankins
2004-04-30 15:33         ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2004-04-30 16:52           ` Hans Reiser
2004-04-30 16:58           ` Jeremy Hankins
2004-05-01 19:40           ` Steve Langasek
2004-04-30 17:07         ` David Masover
2004-04-30 17:58           ` Hubert Chan
2004-04-30 22:53             ` David Masover
2004-05-02 19:46           ` MJ Ray
2004-04-30 15:13       ` Scott James Remnant
2004-04-30 17:43       ` Don Armstrong
2004-05-02 21:02         ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-02 21:55           ` Don Armstrong
2004-05-02 22:37             ` Martin List-Petersen
2004-05-03 17:04               ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-03 17:19                 ` Martin List-Petersen
2004-05-03 17:30                   ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-03  6:58             ` mjt
2004-05-03 17:11               ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-03 17:21                 ` mjt
2004-05-03 17:35                   ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-03 17:49                     ` mjt
2004-05-03 18:00                       ` Chris Dukes
2004-05-04 16:01                         ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-04 17:57                           ` Martin Dickopp
2004-05-04 15:50                       ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-04 19:43                         ` mjt
2004-05-03 22:25               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-05-03 16:35             ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-03 18:16               ` Mahesh T. Pai
2004-05-03 18:55               ` Don Armstrong
2004-05-03 23:06               ` MJ Ray
2004-05-03 21:33           ` MJ Ray
2004-05-03 21:53             ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2004-05-04  0:00               ` MJ Ray
2004-05-04  7:52                 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2004-05-04 16:20                   ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-04 16:45                     ` MJ Ray
2004-05-04 17:02                       ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-04 17:38                         ` MJ Ray
2004-05-04 17:47                           ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-04 18:15                             ` MJ Ray
2004-05-06 18:53                               ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-06 19:00                                 ` Nikita Danilov
2004-05-06 19:14                                   ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-06 19:22                                   ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-06 21:19                                 ` MJ Ray
2004-05-06 23:21                                   ` Brian Thomas Sniffen
2004-05-06 23:29                                     ` MJ Ray
2004-05-07  7:04                                     ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-04 18:00                         ` Brian Thomas Sniffen
2004-05-06  2:52                           ` David Masover
2004-05-06 12:32                             ` Walter Landry
2004-05-06 13:44                               ` Brian Thomas Sniffen
2004-05-06 14:36                                 ` Domenico Andreoli
2004-05-06 16:35                                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-05-06 16:43                                   ` Brian Thomas Sniffen [this message]
2004-05-06 18:10                                     ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-06 18:42                                       ` Matthew Garrett
2004-05-06 18:59                                         ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-06 23:16                                           ` Steve Langasek
2004-05-06 23:18                                           ` Brian Thomas Sniffen
2004-05-07 18:18                                           ` Raul Miller
2004-05-06 22:55                                       ` Brian Thomas Sniffen
2004-05-07  1:21                                         ` Jeremy Hankins
2004-05-07  2:12                                           ` Brian Thomas Sniffen
2004-05-12 13:31                                             ` Jeremy Hankins
2004-05-07  6:47                                         ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-08 13:50                                           ` Sami Liedes
2004-05-06 23:23                                       ` Matthew Palmer
2004-05-06 23:40                                         ` Raul Miller
2004-05-07  0:15                                           ` Stefan Traby
2004-05-10 17:15                                           ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-10 17:20                                             ` Raul Miller
2004-05-07 16:14                                         ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-09  7:08                                           ` Matthew Palmer
2004-05-06 18:41                                     ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-06 19:40                                       ` Stefan Traby
2004-05-04 18:57                         ` Fwd: " Jeremy Hankins
2004-05-06 19:34                           ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-06 19:49                             ` Chris Dukes
2004-05-06 19:54                               ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-06 19:56                                 ` Chris Dukes
2004-05-06 20:02                                   ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-04 17:20                     ` Martin Michlmayr
2004-05-04 17:40                       ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-04 17:54                       ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-04 18:44                         ` Joe Wreschnig
2004-05-06 18:58                           ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-10 17:59                     ` Branden Robinson
2004-04-30 12:02     ` Hans Reiser
2004-04-30 13:25       ` Fwd: reiser4 non-free? [OT] evilninja
2004-04-30 13:34       ` Fwd: reiser4 non-free? MJ Ray
2004-05-03 14:24         ` Claus Färber
2004-05-04  9:56           ` MJ Ray
2004-05-10 18:15             ` Branden Robinson
2004-04-30 12:20   ` Walter Landry
2004-04-30 14:55     ` Narcoleptic Electron
2004-04-30  8:34 ` Fwd: " Stewart Smith
2004-04-30 18:15   ` Steve Langasek
2004-05-02 18:51     ` Hans Reiser
2004-04-30 16:26 ` Michael Milverton
2004-04-30 16:56   ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-01  5:02     ` Michael Milverton
2004-05-02 19:12       ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-02 21:03         ` Stefan Traby
2004-04-30 16:56   ` MJ Ray
2004-04-30 17:13     ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-02 19:42       ` MJ Ray
2004-05-02 19:55         ` Hans Reiser
2004-04-30 17:23   ` Jason Stubbs
2004-04-30 22:39     ` David Masover
2004-05-03 22:15       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-05-04  2:07         ` David Masover
2004-05-02 17:03     ` Hans Reiser
     [not found] <kkKLVD.A.2NF.qPomAB@murphy>
2004-05-06 19:26 ` Humberto Massa
     [not found] <pHiWpB.A.zfD.ypomAB@murphy>
2004-05-06 19:56 ` Humberto Massa
2004-05-06 20:01   ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-06 20:03   ` Narcoleptic Electron
2004-05-06 20:17     ` Humberto Massa
2004-05-06 20:08   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-05-08  1:21     ` Richard Stallman
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-05-08 14:13 Humberto Massa
2004-05-09 18:47 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-10 11:22 Humberto Massa
2004-05-10 11:36 ` mjt
2004-05-11  1:49 ` Walter Landry
2004-05-11  1:58   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-05-11  2:33     ` Walter Landry
2004-05-11  3:53       ` Raul Miller
2004-05-11 15:02       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-05-11 16:03         ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-11 16:35           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-05-11 17:57             ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-11 19:06               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-05-15 21:52                 ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-11  7:10   ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-11 10:52     ` mjt
2004-05-11 17:29 Burnes, James
2004-05-11 17:53 ` Hans Reiser

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