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From: Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>
To: "Markus Törnqvist" <mjt@nysv.org>
Cc: debian-legal@lists.debian.org, reiserfs-list@namesys.com
Subject: Re: Fwd: reiser4 non-free?
Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 08:50:26 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4097BBC2.6020907@namesys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040503174910.GX29226@nysv.org>

Markus Törnqvist wrote:

>On Mon, May 03, 2004 at 10:35:12AM -0700, Hans Reiser wrote:
>
>  
>
>>No, that certainly is an option.  Relocating the credits to somewhere 
>>reasonable for a particular installer is just fine with me.
>>    
>>
>
>Let's see what the Debian people say about showing the complete credits
>in the preinstall screen during interactive installation and scrolling
>through them automatically in a non-interactive one, for example.
>
>I think the response will be "but it's still non-free" :P
>
>  
>
>>>Also, if every software showed their credits, there would easily be a ton
>>>of them.
>>>      
>>>
>>This is bad why?  They could be interesting for users to read while the 
>>install proceeds.
>>    
>>
>
>I wouldn't mind it. However, it could get out of hand if we had
>three-four-five screenfulls of credits during every boot. Then it's time
>to /dev/null again...
>  
>
Well, a really clever way of doing it would have a page describing what 
the program does with a little bit of credits at the bottom.

As a user, I am usually disappointed by how operating systems fail to 
take the opportunity to educate me while I wait for them to install.

>Credits (as commercials and ads and stuff) should never defeat the purpose
>of the entity of which they are a part.
>  
>
I would really like Debian to understand the difference between credits 
and ads.  Credits describe someone's contribution to the project.  Ads 
describe some product for you to buy.  Very different things.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-05-04 15:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 130+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-04-24 19:32 Fwd: reiser4 non-free? Domenico Andreoli
2004-04-25 16:13 ` MJ Ray
2004-04-30  4:50 ` Hans Reiser
2004-04-30  5:56   ` Don Armstrong
2004-04-30 11:48     ` Hans Reiser
2004-04-30 14:12       ` Jeremy Hankins
2004-04-30 15:33         ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2004-04-30 16:52           ` Hans Reiser
2004-04-30 16:58           ` Jeremy Hankins
2004-05-01 19:40           ` Steve Langasek
2004-04-30 17:07         ` David Masover
2004-04-30 17:58           ` Hubert Chan
2004-04-30 22:53             ` David Masover
2004-05-02 19:46           ` MJ Ray
2004-04-30 15:13       ` Scott James Remnant
2004-04-30 17:43       ` Don Armstrong
2004-05-02 21:02         ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-02 21:55           ` Don Armstrong
2004-05-02 22:37             ` Martin List-Petersen
2004-05-03 17:04               ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-03 17:19                 ` Martin List-Petersen
2004-05-03 17:30                   ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-03  6:58             ` mjt
2004-05-03 17:11               ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-03 17:21                 ` mjt
2004-05-03 17:35                   ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-03 17:49                     ` mjt
2004-05-03 18:00                       ` Chris Dukes
2004-05-04 16:01                         ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-04 17:57                           ` Martin Dickopp
2004-05-04 15:50                       ` Hans Reiser [this message]
2004-05-04 19:43                         ` mjt
2004-05-03 22:25               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-05-03 16:35             ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-03 18:16               ` Mahesh T. Pai
2004-05-03 18:55               ` Don Armstrong
2004-05-03 23:06               ` MJ Ray
2004-05-03 21:33           ` MJ Ray
2004-05-03 21:53             ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2004-05-04  0:00               ` MJ Ray
2004-05-04  7:52                 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2004-05-04 16:20                   ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-04 16:45                     ` MJ Ray
2004-05-04 17:02                       ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-04 17:38                         ` MJ Ray
2004-05-04 17:47                           ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-04 18:15                             ` MJ Ray
2004-05-06 18:53                               ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-06 19:00                                 ` Nikita Danilov
2004-05-06 19:14                                   ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-06 19:22                                   ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-06 21:19                                 ` MJ Ray
2004-05-06 23:21                                   ` Brian Thomas Sniffen
2004-05-06 23:29                                     ` MJ Ray
2004-05-07  7:04                                     ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-04 18:00                         ` Brian Thomas Sniffen
2004-05-06  2:52                           ` David Masover
2004-05-06 12:32                             ` Walter Landry
2004-05-06 13:44                               ` Brian Thomas Sniffen
2004-05-06 14:36                                 ` Domenico Andreoli
2004-05-06 16:35                                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-05-06 16:43                                   ` Brian Thomas Sniffen
2004-05-06 18:10                                     ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-06 18:42                                       ` Matthew Garrett
2004-05-06 18:59                                         ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-06 23:16                                           ` Steve Langasek
2004-05-06 23:18                                           ` Brian Thomas Sniffen
2004-05-07 18:18                                           ` Raul Miller
2004-05-06 22:55                                       ` Brian Thomas Sniffen
2004-05-07  1:21                                         ` Jeremy Hankins
2004-05-07  2:12                                           ` Brian Thomas Sniffen
2004-05-12 13:31                                             ` Jeremy Hankins
2004-05-07  6:47                                         ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-08 13:50                                           ` Sami Liedes
2004-05-06 23:23                                       ` Matthew Palmer
2004-05-06 23:40                                         ` Raul Miller
2004-05-07  0:15                                           ` Stefan Traby
2004-05-10 17:15                                           ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-10 17:20                                             ` Raul Miller
2004-05-07 16:14                                         ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-09  7:08                                           ` Matthew Palmer
2004-05-06 18:41                                     ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-06 19:40                                       ` Stefan Traby
2004-05-04 18:57                         ` Fwd: " Jeremy Hankins
2004-05-06 19:34                           ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-06 19:49                             ` Chris Dukes
2004-05-06 19:54                               ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-06 19:56                                 ` Chris Dukes
2004-05-06 20:02                                   ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-04 17:20                     ` Martin Michlmayr
2004-05-04 17:40                       ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-04 17:54                       ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-04 18:44                         ` Joe Wreschnig
2004-05-06 18:58                           ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-10 17:59                     ` Branden Robinson
2004-04-30 12:02     ` Hans Reiser
2004-04-30 13:25       ` Fwd: reiser4 non-free? [OT] evilninja
2004-04-30 13:34       ` Fwd: reiser4 non-free? MJ Ray
2004-05-03 14:24         ` Claus Färber
2004-05-04  9:56           ` MJ Ray
2004-05-10 18:15             ` Branden Robinson
2004-04-30 12:20   ` Walter Landry
2004-04-30 14:55     ` Narcoleptic Electron
2004-04-30  8:34 ` Fwd: " Stewart Smith
2004-04-30 18:15   ` Steve Langasek
2004-05-02 18:51     ` Hans Reiser
2004-04-30 16:26 ` Michael Milverton
2004-04-30 16:56   ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-01  5:02     ` Michael Milverton
2004-05-02 19:12       ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-02 21:03         ` Stefan Traby
2004-04-30 16:56   ` MJ Ray
2004-04-30 17:13     ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-02 19:42       ` MJ Ray
2004-05-02 19:55         ` Hans Reiser
2004-04-30 17:23   ` Jason Stubbs
2004-04-30 22:39     ` David Masover
2004-05-03 22:15       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-05-04  2:07         ` David Masover
2004-05-02 17:03     ` Hans Reiser
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-05-03 17:41 Burnes, James
2004-05-03 17:45 ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-03 18:38 ` Martin List-Petersen
     [not found] <A69517E67905B6429D57AA9EB6C86E6855266A@haynesmail.haynes-group.com>
2004-05-03 20:16 ` Tim Donahue
2004-05-04 19:18 Burnes, James
2004-05-05  3:11 ` Michael Milverton
2004-05-05 20:10   ` mjt
2004-05-07 15:51 Dawson, Larry
2004-05-07 16:26 ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-07 16:40 Dawson, Larry

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